ERROR 1452

Amith Anoop Kumar
Amith Anoop Kumar Altair Community Member
edited June 2021 in Community Q&A

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I was trying to run a modal analysis and this error occured. Can anyone help me with whats the error

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  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2021 Answer ✓

    the .out file say 'material data'.

    If your 'rho' is 0.0, then your mass = volume*density = volume*0.0 = 0.0

    if we compare to a spring-mass system,:

    f = sqrt(stiffness/mass)

    >> if mass=0.0 >> ??

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    by the way, i suggest you to take some time and go through the Altair University trainings. Also take a look at the eBooks. They're nice for those who are starting at FE analysis.

    https://altairuniversity.com/altairuniversity-for-students/

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  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2021

    you have 2 cards that can be deleted.

    the 2nd one has really strange things there.

    Even deleting this, other errors will appear, such as your beam elements having wrong orientation.

     

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    Bear in mind thatfor beams you need to define a orientation vector, which indicated the corresponding local Y axis of your model.

    The orientation is given by a projection of the orientation vector V along your beam axis (always local x).

    the V vector CANNOT be aligned with your local X axis, otherwise it will throw an error.

    Element 3408 has its 'V' vector aligned to the bar, thus an error message will be shown later.

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  • Amith Anoop Kumar
    Amith Anoop Kumar Altair Community Member
    edited June 2021

    Hi Sir,

    I deleted both the cards. As u said the orietation issue arived. Can you please guide me exactly like how can we set orientation vector for bam elements. Is it individually for each beam ellement or the complete mesh one orientation vector?

    Thanking You

    Amith

  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2021

    Hi Sir,

    I deleted both the cards. As u said the orietation issue arived. Can you please guide me exactly like how can we set orientation vector for bam elements. Is it individually for each beam ellement or the complete mesh one orientation vector?

    Thanking You

    Amith

    1d>>bar>>update

     

    select your element and define a new orientation vector (different than the current and not aligned with local X)

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  • Amith Anoop Kumar
    Amith Anoop Kumar Altair Community Member
    edited June 2021

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    Sir I changed the orientation of every element. Should it be done on every element or the shown element only?

    And after that this error came

  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2021

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    Sir I changed the orientation of every element. Should it be done on every element or the shown element only?

    And after that this error came

    let me describe it clearly: orientation vector should be defined accordingly with your desired bar elements. If it is a circular/tube section, you don't need to worry so much with it, EXCEPT by avoinding orinetation aligned to the beam.

     

    About ERROR # 24, I believe you understand what a modal analysis is: you need to provide the stiffness and MASS of your system in order to calculate your eigenvalues. 

    So the error clearly states that there's something missing about the mass of your model.

    It clearly says "please check the material data". So, please, take a look at your material data, and check for the material density (RHO)

  • Amith Anoop Kumar
    Amith Anoop Kumar Altair Community Member
    edited June 2021

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  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2021

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    the .out file say 'material data'.

    If your 'rho' is 0.0, then your mass = volume*density = volume*0.0 = 0.0

    if we compare to a spring-mass system,:

    f = sqrt(stiffness/mass)

    >> if mass=0.0 >> ??

    image

  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2021 Answer ✓

    the .out file say 'material data'.

    If your 'rho' is 0.0, then your mass = volume*density = volume*0.0 = 0.0

    if we compare to a spring-mass system,:

    f = sqrt(stiffness/mass)

    >> if mass=0.0 >> ??

    image

    by the way, i suggest you to take some time and go through the Altair University trainings. Also take a look at the eBooks. They're nice for those who are starting at FE analysis.

    https://altairuniversity.com/altairuniversity-for-students/

  • Amith Anoop Kumar
    Amith Anoop Kumar Altair Community Member
    edited June 2021

    Thanks a lot for your sugestiion Sir. I thought that if we leave blank values like nu, rho it will have its default values . Anyways thanks a lot for taking your time Sir