Trouble creating Rigid Body Radioss

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hi, 

 

I'm new using RADIOSS. 
I want to compute a basic droping test, using a plate in composite and a rigid impactor.


I tried to applied a Rigid property to the impactor but it doesn't worked. I also tried to create a new component, without card, but it also doesn't work.

 

As you can see on the screen, my impactor is deformed.

 

Could you help me dealing this ?

 

Thanks, 

 

Best regards, 

Raphael 

 

PS : sorry for my english, I'm French

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited February 2018

    Hi Raphael,

    Create a separate component collector for rigids without any card image and no material or porperty. Now go to 1D panel, select rigids >>select calculate node option >> select comps option and select this impactor. Now the rigid elements are created on this impactor thereby making the imapctor a non-deformable body. 
     

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    If you still have doubts let us know so that we can create a short video also showing these steps.

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Georges, 

     

    Thanks for your answer. I already tried this, but it doesn't work with my model.

     

    I defined my impactor as Part, Property P1_SHELL, and Material M1_ELAST. Then, the rigid is defined using nodes of this impactor. After running RADIOSS, nothing is moving. 

    Do I have to set my velocity BC on the impactor or on the rigid ? 

     

    Thank you, 

     

    Raphael 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Raphael,

    While defining initial velocity select all the nodes of the impactor including the rigid body master node and run the analysis.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Thanks Georges, I'll try this.

     

    I've an other issue. My plate is in composite, using 2 differents composite. There isn't core, it's just a laminate using 2 differents composites. 

    I created both materials, the differents plies, then I realized the laminate. A new component appears. The question is, which material should be assigned to this new component ? I run 2 identical models changing the assigned material, and I calculated a 12% error...

     

    Thank you

     

    Raphael

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Raphael,

    In the latest HyperWorks update (2017.2) this realization option is removed. We use normally this for the visualization of layers and fiber direction purpose.

    Can you try without using this realize option?.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Georges, 

     

    I'll try this then  I'll come back to you. 

     

    Thanks 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi George P Johnson, 

     

    As you said yesterday, I tried without the 'realize' option, and sadly it doesn't work. I've some errors to run the model.

     

    What do you want to say by this sentence ?

    We use normally this for the visualization of layers and fiber direction purpose.

     

    If I want to keep using this function, is it okay for the model ? If yes, how can I choose between both materials created ?

     

    Thank you, 

     

    Best regards, 

    Raphael

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Raphel,

    If using a recent version of RADIOSS, it should not matter too much, this is used only for contact stiffness with the element. 

    In older versions this was used to calculate timestep for the part then you could get very different results between models. Also let us know are the laminates in contact? And also, are these 2 materials very different in stiffness?.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Georges, 

     

    I'm using HyperWorks 2017.2, and I don't see the 'realize' function as you said yesterday. By the way, I always have to choose between both materials.

     

    It's a monolithic composite, so there are 2 plies of A and 16 plies of B. The plies of B are between the A layers. The specifications are on the Table below.

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    Thank you for your help

     

    Best regards, 

    Raphael 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Raphael,

    It seems like these material parameters difference for both the laminates is causing this results difference in your model and also they are in contact. As I told before it should not matter too much, as it is used only for contact stiffness with the element. 

  • pohan
    pohan Altair Community Member
    edited November 2019

    Hi @Raphael_Mtl I have the same problem as yours. I created a rigid body and them imposed a certain velocity but nothing moves. Did you solve your problems?

  • Simon Križnik
    Simon Križnik Altair Community Member
    edited November 2019

    Hi

     

    initial velocity and gravity should include all slave nodes of a rigid body as well as its master node. Other boundary conditions require only the master node. 

  • pohan
    pohan Altair Community Member
    edited November 2019

    Hi @Hyperman 

    Do you know how to get the number of master node when using 'calculate node'?

    Tks

  • Simon Križnik
    Simon Križnik Altair Community Member
    edited October 2020

    I prefer Utility>Radioss Tools>RBODY manager where all rigid elements are listed with their related master nodes. There are other ways to get master node ID:

    https://community.altair.com/community?id=community_question&sys_id=4c5644b61b2bd0908017dc61ec4bcbbc