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Meshing exterior acoustic cavity for a motor assembly

User: "Altair Forum User"
Altair Employee
Updated by Altair Forum User

Hi sir, 

Last time I performed acoustic analysis on stator. This time I need to do the same procedure for motor assembly. While I try to mesh the region between motor and 2D sphere using 3D tetra elements , my mesh is failing.

 

Please suggest how will I be able to mesh it. 

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    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Hello,

     

    Can you please tell me how you are meshing the region and what exact error you are getting.

     

    Also please refer to the below post. It may be relevant to you.

    Thankyou

     

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi sir, 

    I tried by doing it the recommended way, but the problem is not resolved. 

    Can you have a look at the model and check what's wrong? 

    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Hello,

     

    Please share the model.

     

    thankyou

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Could you be able to arrange for any FTP link?

    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Please send to this FTP

     

    FileTransferLink

    User: "QuyNguyenDai"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by QuyNguyenDai

    Hi sir, 

    Last time I performed acoustic analysis on stator. This time I need to do the same procedure for motor assembly. While I try to mesh the region between motor and 2D sphere using 3D tetra elements , my mesh is failing.

     

    Please suggest how will I be able to mesh it. 

     

     

    If you're looking for 'One-click-meshing-method' for your model, I would like to say 'Good luck' to you :)/emoticons/default_smile.png' srcset='/emoticons/smile@2x.png 2x' title=':)' width='20' />

    For a good mesh in this case, alot of work is needed.

     

    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Hello,

     

    Please go to 'Mesh>>Create>>Acoustic Cavity Mesh'. 

    There select outer sphere under 'Structure' and select the Motor Components under 'seats'. Keep the 'create hole elements' option on or off depending on your requirements and then click preview and then click 'mesh' in 'Acousticcavity browser'.

     

     Please find a tutorial on this in the attached pdf. It is the last tutorial.

     

    Engineering Solution PDF

     

    Thankyou

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    That is for interior acoustics I think

    User: "QuyNguyenDai"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by QuyNguyenDai

    Please send to this FTP

     

    FileTransferLink

     

    Your upload link is HTTPS, secured HTTP,  not FTP !

    HTTP/HTTPS and FTP are different protocols.

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi sir, 

    I sent the file again. Please confirm whether you got it.

    Thank you

    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Yes i have got the file, i will get back to you.

     

    Thankyou

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Ok

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Sir anything on this? 

    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Hello,

     

    I had a talk with some experts.

    So to do this you need to have 2D elements everywhere (motor components and the outer sphere).

     

    Then all the motor components should be under one component, there should be no gap or intersection between them and also there should not be any contact surfaces in them.

     

    This means that all the motor parts should be treated as one component only in HM. It should be 2D meshed. Then there should be no gap, intersection or contact surfaces between the parts.

     

    Thankyou.

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    The motor has some air gaps inside.

    So what could we do about it? 

    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    You need to fill the gap with elements then only you will be able to get a proper mesh.

     

    Thankyou

    User: "Pandurang"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by Pandurang

    is it possible to write script for this problem...instead of using existing one

    1. it should fill the all gaps

    2. it should be volume tetra mesh with big size element.

    after selecting the exterior comp

     

    @tinh

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai

    @Sanjay Nainani

    User: "QuyNguyenDai"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by QuyNguyenDai

    Sorry, I have NO your model, so I can't help.

    Don't forget that script is not always the best solution.

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    How about using cavity?

    User: "Pandurang"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by Pandurang

    How about using cavity?

    i didn't get you sir...

    ??