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Flexible contact in MV 2022.3?

User: "Brian_20847"
Altair Community Member
Updated by Brian_20847

Hi everyone,

I am running flexible contact between 2 gears, but I have these errors.

Please see this image to know this error and find this attached to know my model:

https://ftam1.altair.com/message/fhuQC39eJumRhvg5XiJpGo

Thanks.

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    User: "Praful"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Praful

    Hello Brian - The solver integrator has difficulty at a certain time. Here are some observation/comments related to the flexbodies that may help resolve it. (not guaranteed but worth trying)

    1. The gear meshes have a lot of penetration to begin with.

    image

    2. The flexbody mass looks suspicious with output gear at 0.0006 kgs ! The fem file shows having a MAT card with density 7.85e-9. I presume the mass unit used here is MEGAGRAMS. But while creating the flexbody the same may not have been used.

    image

    4. Try reducing the Minimum step size. But if you fix the penetration issue, this may not be required.

    image

    Once you have addressed the above,

    Flex contacts need better modal accuracy around the region of contact. So, generally, it is recommended to solve it in 3 steps. 1) generate a loadset file using the current flexbodies. 2) Create new flexbodies using Craig Chang contact method and the loadset file generated in step 1. 3) Update the model with new flexbodies.

    Refer to help on Flex contact

    Good luck !

    Praful

     

    User: "Brian_20847"
    Altair Community Member
    OP
    Updated by Brian_20847

    Hello Brian - The solver integrator has difficulty at a certain time. Here are some observation/comments related to the flexbodies that may help resolve it. (not guaranteed but worth trying)

    1. The gear meshes have a lot of penetration to begin with.

    image

    2. The flexbody mass looks suspicious with output gear at 0.0006 kgs ! The fem file shows having a MAT card with density 7.85e-9. I presume the mass unit used here is MEGAGRAMS. But while creating the flexbody the same may not have been used.

    image

    4. Try reducing the Minimum step size. But if you fix the penetration issue, this may not be required.

    image

    Once you have addressed the above,

    Flex contacts need better modal accuracy around the region of contact. So, generally, it is recommended to solve it in 3 steps. 1) generate a loadset file using the current flexbodies. 2) Create new flexbodies using Craig Chang contact method and the loadset file generated in step 1. 3) Update the model with new flexbodies.

    Refer to help on Flex contact

    Good luck !

    Praful

     

    Hi Praful,

    I edited unit for flexible body, it can run but it has vibration.

    I want to know it is due to penetration or interface nodes cannot match with COG point?

    Thanks

    User: "Praful"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Praful

    Hi Praful,

    I edited unit for flexible body, it can run but it has vibration.

    I want to know it is due to penetration or interface nodes cannot match with COG point?

    Thanks

    Hi Brian - from the video it is hard to determine.

    It could possibly be because of

    a) the penetrations

    b) contact properties-  you might need some tuning here.

    regards

    praful