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Spring connection between two componentes

User: "Altair Forum User"
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Updated by Altair Forum User

I'm modeling a representative volume element that it's basicaly made by a cylinder inserted into a cube. I need to make a spring contact between this two parts, changing the spring stiffness i want to analyse the perfect and the imperfect contact. Anybody has a tip to build this model with spring elements (CBUSH) only in the common nodes between the cylinder and the rest of the cube? Those spring elements need to be at a cylindric system.

 

I have something like this:

 

 

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    User: "tinh"
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    Updated by tinh

    Hi,

    create face elems of the two comps, then use 1d>linear 1d to create 'spring' between 2 contact sides

    switch spring to cbush and apply CID as you need

    example: 

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    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    You can use either 1D linear to create or use connectors>> Spot weld>> Springs and update to CBUSH with CID

    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Ok, i'll try that and give you guys a feedback! Thank you.

    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi together,

     

    i try to achieve the same thing. I create the face elements over faces, find faces and put them in two new components. Afterwards i try to connect them over linear 1D. Now I get the error: 2 meshs elem orders differ. Is there anything else i need to consider?

     

    After this step, do i have to delete the two face meshes created?

     

    Thanks for your help!

     

    Sebastian

    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    HI,

     

    Do you get this error during analysis or during modelling?

     

    I don't see a point for having face elements. 

    User: "Rahul Rajan_21763"
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    Updated by Rahul Rajan_21763

    To use 1d linear.you should have same no of element on both faces & make sure you give proper alignment.

    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    I tried to use the model created by tinh in the earlier post. () I get the error during the modelling.

     

    I extracted the face elements from both components and tried to connect them over 1d linear. 

     

    As Input i selected: from (face elems component number one) to (face elems components number two)

     

    When i press the create button i receive this error message. (2 meshs elem orders differ)

     

    Is there anything I am doing wrong?

     

    Is there a need to define the allignment or the density?

     

    Thank you for your help!

     

    Sebastian

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    User: "tinh"
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    Updated by tinh

    Maybe you were wrong in n1n2n3 selection

    3nodes must be on corresponding elems

    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi,

     

    Did you extract face elements of the elements which are part of hole on blue component?

     

    Also check the  alignment as @tinh suggested.

     

    Another workaround (You don't have to create face elements)  is to use Connectors>> Spot>> Spring. Select the nodes and components and create CELAS1 elements. Goto connectors browser and delete connectors (not connectors and FE)

     

    Now go to springs panel>> update>> change element type to CBUSH>> select all CLEAS1 elements>> update element type.

     

     

    User: "Altair Forum User"
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    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Thank you! It worked.