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Type 7 interfaces not working

User: "JM Desrosiers"
Altair Community Member
Updated by JM Desrosiers

Hi, I got Type 7 interfaces between parts. 

- No initial penetration or intersection. 

But some parts are passing through other parts. And some are ok. Why? Here my setup for type 7. 

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I tried Type 11 with the same parameters, but still the same problem.

I can share the model, but in a secured folder.

Thanks!

JM

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    User: "JM Desrosiers"
    Altair Community Member
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    Updated by JM Desrosiers

    I want to precise that the parts that are passing through others are parts which have some nodes in a type 2 interface

    User: "ArthurJANNOT"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by ArthurJANNOT

    Hello,

    It's possible to share your model please?

    My secure FileDrop : https://ftam1.altair.com/filedrop/ajannot@altair.com

    Best regards,

    Arthur JANNOT

     

    User: "JM Desrosiers"
    Altair Community Member
    OP
    Updated by JM Desrosiers

    I finally got it. I created surfaces to wrap my solid parts (to use it for Type 2 interfaces) and I don't know why, but when I remove theses surfaces, it's working.

     

    For exemple. Part A and Part B have these kind of 2D surfaces. When I remove one of them, it's working.

     

    Thanks!

     

    JM

    User: "Andy_20955"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Andy_20955

    Hi,

    Glad to know you got if figured out.  Yes the 2d shell elements on the solid elements could be the issue.  If they are defined with VOID materials and properties then it is important to define realistic material properties in /MAT/VOID and thickness in /PROP/VOID because without these the contact stiffness will not work correctly.  If another material and property is used then using realistic values is still needed. This is mentioned in the comments of /INTER/TYPE7.

    "When using /PROP/VOID and /MAT/VOID, material properties and thickness for the VOID material must be entered; otherwise, the contact stiffness of the void elements will be zero. This is especially important if VOID shell elements share elements with solid elements as the stiffness of the shell elements is used in the contact calculation."

    Unlike other explicit solvers, the 2D shell elements skinned over solid elements are not needed for tied TYPE2 contact or other contacts such as TYPE7. 

    Thanks,

    Andy  

     

    User: "Dhanasharee Jadhav_20562"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Dhanasharee Jadhav_20562

    Hi,

    Please refer to this video to learn more about the type 7 interface.

    https://altairuniversity.com/learning-library/vii_d_sliding-interface-type-7-in-radioss/

    Regards,

    Dhanasharee Jadhav

    User: "JM Desrosiers"
    Altair Community Member
    OP
    Updated by JM Desrosiers

    Hi,

    Glad to know you got if figured out.  Yes the 2d shell elements on the solid elements could be the issue.  If they are defined with VOID materials and properties then it is important to define realistic material properties in /MAT/VOID and thickness in /PROP/VOID because without these the contact stiffness will not work correctly.  If another material and property is used then using realistic values is still needed. This is mentioned in the comments of /INTER/TYPE7.

    "When using /PROP/VOID and /MAT/VOID, material properties and thickness for the VOID material must be entered; otherwise, the contact stiffness of the void elements will be zero. This is especially important if VOID shell elements share elements with solid elements as the stiffness of the shell elements is used in the contact calculation."

    Unlike other explicit solvers, the 2D shell elements skinned over solid elements are not needed for tied TYPE2 contact or other contacts such as TYPE7. 

    Thanks,

    Andy  

     

    Thanks,

    That was exactly my problem.

    Thanks Andy!

    JM

    User: "Rogerio Nakano_21179"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Rogerio Nakano_21179

    I finally got it. I created surfaces to wrap my solid parts (to use it for Type 2 interfaces) and I don't know why, but when I remove theses surfaces, it's working.

     

    For exemple. Part A and Part B have these kind of 2D surfaces. When I remove one of them, it's working.

     

    Thanks!

     

    JM

    if you created surface becaused needed shells for the contact master side,  it is not needed.

    You can define /SURF from the solid element faces as well and use it for the /INTER/TYPE2 contact.

    Regards