Cantilever Beam's displacement can't match the analysis result

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited November 2020 in Community Q&A

I have do the simple supported beam's analysis

 

and when I calculate the displacement of middle, it will still have 4.8% difference.

 

But my element size is about 10 mm.

 

Why I can't match them.

 

I watch the z-displacement. 

 

I have refine it but it still wrong.

 

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Answers

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    Try to refine more your mesh. Your current mesh is rather 'coarse' for me.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai 

     

    I have try more mesh like the file Pressure_Modify_Size 2.fem

     

    Because we use other analysis software.

     

    It use less mesh and can approach, so we don't know why OpitStruct can't convergence.

     

    image.png.eaa7bcbdb82fc0f2ed4fc59f214bebc3.png

     

    I see the result is used this setting

     

    image.png.321fcbf2029ecd31746d0e9295573923.png

     

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    Your refine  mesh is WRONG! I'll show you later

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai Thanks for you.

     

    I think you are talking about the full model refine.

     

    But I have another example like my last reply, it is convergence.

     

    Because if this simple case the element size can't be 10mm or need finer.

     

    In the future, our model must be under this size. I think is not reasonable.

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    Within model 'Pressure_Modify Size 2.fem' you have refined at middle of beam, why?

    That's not the good method to refine in order to get better results.

    In your case, the first area you have to refine is at clamp. Because in this area, you have the most important stress gradient.

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai I think is the boundary I constrain all d.o.f.

     

    I think it should release some d.o.f.

     

    Do you have any other suggestions?

  • tinh
    tinh Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    In your model, force position seems to be incorrect

    you use PLOAD4 on a layer of solid => so force position is at middle of that layer while it should act at one end of the beam

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    @tinh Thanks to your reply.

     

    So I can't apply on the surface of element.

     

    And how should I apply at the position.

  • tinh
    tinh Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    Distribute it to nodes at the end of beam

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    In your model, force position seems to be incorrect

    you use PLOAD4 on a layer of solid => so force position is at middle of that layer while it should act at one end of the beam

    Yes magnitude as well as type of load doesnt match with the hand hand calculation. Also unit system for fea and hand calculation could be differing. Kindly take note of it.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    @Nachiket Kadu @tinh

     

    Thanks to your apply!

     

    I have finished this problem.