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Radioss Solver Run Issue on AMD threadripper pro processor.

User: "NIkhilesh"
NIkhilesh
Altair Community Member

Hi Team,

We are trying to run a Radioss simulation, which is taking longer time on AMD processor compared to Intel. And also, when the same run is carried only on AMD processor with multicore usage, 32 cores is taking lesser time than 64 cores whereas to happen vice-versa.

For example, 32 cores AMD processor is taking 0.5 hr to run a simulation where 64Cores is taking almost 1 hr to solve the same solution.

we found some issue with the scalability.

Does anyone has come across this kind of issue ?

Any solution would help me.

Thanks

Nikhilesh

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    User: "Guilherme_Brandao"
    Guilherme_Brandao
    Altair Employee

    Hello @NIkhilesh

    Does your processor have 64 physical cores, or does it include logical cores as well? Could you provide details about your AMD processor?

    Additionally, which operating system are you using, and how are you submitting the job (e.g. Compute Console)? If you are using Windows 10 but no the latest version, you migh need to set the KMP_AFFINITY environment variable to disabled.

    In general, for parallelism settings, I would recommend checking this article: Altair Radioss Parallel Computing Methods.

    User: "PaulAltair"
    PaulAltair
    Altair Employee

    Guilherme's points are good, Another consideration is model size, for (good) scalability a rule of thumb is 10k elements per process, (5k ok) so up to 64 processes, the model would need to be around 320k elements as a minimum (better 640k) if the test model is smaller then scalability will suffer.

    User: "NIkhilesh"
    NIkhilesh
    Altair Community Member
    OP

    Hi Team,

    We are using window 10 enterprise OS and and using compute console to solve the analysis. we have also disabled the KMP_AFFINITY. we have used every possibility mentioned in the Community Page.

    The Elements are more than the minimum range.

    Also please find the Image on details of AMD processor and also computation time for the model :

    image.png

    np

    nt

    Computation time

    16

    1

    05:54:20

    32

    1

    06:42:20

    64

    1

    08:45:48

    User: "Guilherme_Brandao"
    Guilherme_Brandao
    Altair Employee

    Hi @NIkhilesh

    Could you please provide a screenshot of the Cumulative CPU Time Summary (information at the end of the 1.out file)?

    image.png

    Also, how does the runtime in SMP mode (-np 1 and - nt 16 (or 32/64)) compare to SPMD? And HMPP (-np 4 - nt16)?

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