Connect offset Surfaces

Alex_Eberhard
Alex_Eberhard Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello everyone,

 

I'm struggling to properly connect offset surfaces. I've separated the solid into components of different thicknesses, extracted the midsurfaces and connected the elements with rigids (see attached picture).

FE-Analysis shows different results compared to a solid model and stress jumps at the connection points.

 

Can anyone suggest me a better idea, how to connect these surfaces?

 

Thanks!

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  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Could you please share the screenshot of actual geometry?

     

  • Alex_Eberhard
    Alex_Eberhard Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Here's what the solid looks like.

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  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Sometime, life is easier with solid meshing :P/emoticons/default_tongue.png' srcset='/emoticons/tongue@2x.png 2x' title=':P' width='20' />

  • Alex_Eberhard
    Alex_Eberhard Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019
    Altair Forum User said:

    Sometime, life is easier with solid meshing :P/emoticons/default_tongue.png' srcset='/emoticons/tongue@2x.png 2x' title=':P' width='20' />

    Haha yes, totally agree.

    But unfortunately I must use shell elements ...

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Any specific reason for using shell? You could also try RSSCON – Shell-to-Solid Element Connector.

    Would be good if you could share the hm file.

  • Alex_Eberhard
    Alex_Eberhard Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Hello Sir,

    the reason I have to use shell elements is because I have to size optimize the element thicknesses of this model (for a university project).

    Attached you can find the files (solid and hm shell model).

     

    Thanks in advance for your help!

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  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    I think SPC is creating a problem.You should constrain all dof for SPC and use RBE2 rather constraining edges directly.

  • Alex_Eberhard
    Alex_Eberhard Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Hello,

    thank your for the tip, unfortunately this delivers the same results after trying it out.

    I think the problem is, that rigids insert too much stiffness into the model.

    I've tried out different approaches and came to the conclusion, that using several rbe3 elements distributed symmetricaly at the connection points deliver the best results for my problem. This is not perfect, but good enough for my issue.

    The model is a bit stiffer than the solid model. The deviaton value for displacement is 2% and for the vM-stress only 0,03%.

    Maybe this can help someone who has the same problem.

    Nevertheless, thanks for your help!

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited August 2019

    Thanks for sharing.

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