Subcase for Pretension Analysis

Ovunc2
Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
edited November 2022 in Community Q&A

Hello, 

I want to perform a step-by-step analysis as in the tutorial below.

That is, firstly, I want to tighten the ring with SPCD  and then torquing the bolts. For this scenario, can't we do a preload to the pretension step? (You can think of this process as elastically deforming the ring with the press and then fixing the position with a screw.)

https://2020.help.altair.com/2020/hwsolvers/os/topics/solvers/os/contacts_and_pretensioning_bolts_os_example_r.htm?zoom_highlightsub=CNTNLSUB

Thank you. 

Best Regards,

Ovunc 

Answers

  • PaulAltair
    PaulAltair
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2022

    Yes, you ought to be able to do that, you might need to use LGDISP and MODCHG (to activate/deactivate contacts) depending on the geometry, e.g. in the mocked up example you have made, the bolt head contacts need to be off in the first case and then on in the second

  • Ovunc2
    Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2022

    Yes, you ought to be able to do that, you might need to use LGDISP and MODCHG (to activate/deactivate contacts) depending on the geometry, e.g. in the mocked up example you have made, the bolt head contacts need to be off in the first case and then on in the second

    Hello @Paul Sharp

    Firstly, thank you for support. I did't know MODCHG. This information has been very useful for me. Thank you again. 

    I made the additions you mentioned. In the example I created, the two steps seem to work independently of each other. So, I couldn't add preload to pretension step.

    Could you please examine model?

    Thank you. 

    Best Regards, 

    Ovunc

  • PaulAltair
    PaulAltair
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2022
    Ovunc2 said:

    Hello @Paul Sharp

    Firstly, thank you for support. I did't know MODCHG. This information has been very useful for me. Thank you again. 

    I made the additions you mentioned. In the example I created, the two steps seem to work independently of each other. So, I couldn't add preload to pretension step.

    Could you please examine model?

    Thank you. 

    Best Regards, 

    Ovunc

    It looks to be working ok I think... the preload is effectively much much higher then your pretension, so the bolts just stretch back due to the preload

    It is clearer to understand if you add 'NLOUT' requests to the 2 steps (NINT 10), then you can view the transient progression of the steps rather than just the start and end points

    You are compressing the ring by 2mm and you are specifying an initial overclosure for the ring contacts of .15mm so the compression is effectively 2.3mm so the forces are very high

    The attached is a modified version, where I removed the ring overclosure and modified the ring geometry so the compression is only 0.2mm instead of 2mm and it looks much more sensible (I also added NLOUT)

     

  • Ovunc2
    Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2022

    It looks to be working ok I think... the preload is effectively much much higher then your pretension, so the bolts just stretch back due to the preload

    It is clearer to understand if you add 'NLOUT' requests to the 2 steps (NINT 10), then you can view the transient progression of the steps rather than just the start and end points

    You are compressing the ring by 2mm and you are specifying an initial overclosure for the ring contacts of .15mm so the compression is effectively 2.3mm so the forces are very high

    The attached is a modified version, where I removed the ring overclosure and modified the ring geometry so the compression is only 0.2mm instead of 2mm and it looks much more sensible (I also added NLOUT)

     

    Hi Paul, 

    Thank you so much. 

    Best Regards, 

    Ovunc