How to apply a centrifugal load on a blade geometry

moeen
moeen Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

I want to apply a centrifugal load to a single blade geometry but not sure how to use RFORCE card to apply that?

 

In the help of RFORCE following parameters need to be specified

 

G - origin of rota vector

CID - coordinate system of vector

R1R2R3 - components of vector

IDRF - id of element set applied this force

 

How to calculate and define R1 R2 and R3? can someone explain with an example?

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  • Pranav Hari
    Pranav Hari Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Hi moeen

     

    R1, R2, R3 are rectangular components of the rotation direction vector. The vector defined will pass through point G

    You can specify the direction of rotation by defining R1, R2, R3.

     

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    Have a look at this example file where the direction of rotation or Rforce is defined in the Z direction.

     

     

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  • moeen
    moeen Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Hi moeen

     

    R1, R2, R3 are rectangular components of the rotation direction vector. The vector defined will pass through point G

    You can specify the direction of rotation by defining R1, R2, R3.

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>image.png

     

    Have a look at this example file where the direction of rotation or Rforce is defined in the Z direction.

     

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>image.png

     

     

    Thanks for the info now its clear to me but one more question. I need to define the centrifugal load of 100 rpm so i am thinking where should i insert that? under A or under RACC coz one is angular velocity and the other is angular acceleration?

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  • Pranav Hari
    Pranav Hari Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Hi moeen

     

    In RFORCE card, you have a provision to input rotational velocity or acceleration. If you have the units of Rev/sec, then you need to input under the velocity.

    If you have the unit of rev/sec2 then, you need to input under acceleration.

     

    In your case, you can input the value under angular velocity.

  • moeen
    moeen Altair Community Member
    edited October 2020

    Hi moeen

     

    In RFORCE card, you have a provision to input rotational velocity or acceleration. If you have the units of Rev/sec, then you need to input under the velocity.

    If you have the unit of rev/sec2 then, you need to input under acceleration.

     

    In your case, you can input the value under angular velocity.

     

    Thanks a lot for clarification but one more clarification. What units should we use here? rev/s or rad/s???? its quite confusing for me at the moment. 

    In the manual it says radians below 

     

    angular velocity = ω(radians/unittime)=2πAR

     

    whereas in the same page it also mention that A is a Scale factor of the rotational velocity in revolutions per unit time. so here its saying revolutions.

     

    but in one of the post the admin mentioned rev/sec. Can you please clarify this ?

     

    https://community.altair.com/community?id=community_question&sys_id=2696047a1b2bd0908017dc61ec4bcb99

  • Pranav Hari
    Pranav Hari Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Hi moeen

     

    What units should we use here? rev/s or rad/s????

    You should give the input in the form of  rev/sec.

     

    The radians per second is the SI unit of angular velocity. 

    Here if you have the input in the form of rad/sec, then you have to convert it into rev/sec while inputting into HyperMesh.

     

     ω = 1 rad/scorresponds to a frequency of rotation of 60/(2π) rpm ≈ 9.55 rpm