Implementing nonlinear elastic spring element using type13 or type8

Tetsuya
Tetsuya Altair Community Member
edited March 2022 in Community Q&A

I am running a drop test of the landing gear model which consists of an arm, damper, and tire.

I am using a type13 spring element to model a damper for the analysis and would like to use the nonlinear elastic function.

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According to the manual, using the function curve I can use a nonlinear elastic spring by activating H1 as 8.

However, I only found this only (H1=8) for type4 spring and not type13 spring nor type8 spring as can be seen from the picture.

How can I implement a nonlinear elastic spring using a force and displacement curve?

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  • PaulAltair
    PaulAltair
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2022 Answer ✓

    Hi, yes, the specific behaviour of H=8 is only available with Type 4 Spring, this is correct, and the manual states this too: Why do you need to use H=8 specifically? If you must use this, then you may use spring type 4 for your axial behaviour, but you must leave another spring (Type 13) coincident to constrain the other DOF

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    all other 'H' types (H =0-7) are also nonlinear elastic springs with force/displacement input though, they just have different hardening behaviours. The simplest input is with H=0, the spring in this case will just follow the input curves for load/unload

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    https://2021.help.altair.com/2021.2/hwsolvers/rad/topics/solvers/rad/stiffness_formulation_spring_hardening_r.htm

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  • PaulAltair
    PaulAltair
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2022 Answer ✓

    Hi, yes, the specific behaviour of H=8 is only available with Type 4 Spring, this is correct, and the manual states this too: Why do you need to use H=8 specifically? If you must use this, then you may use spring type 4 for your axial behaviour, but you must leave another spring (Type 13) coincident to constrain the other DOF

    image

     

    all other 'H' types (H =0-7) are also nonlinear elastic springs with force/displacement input though, they just have different hardening behaviours. The simplest input is with H=0, the spring in this case will just follow the input curves for load/unload

    image

     

    https://2021.help.altair.com/2021.2/hwsolvers/rad/topics/solvers/rad/stiffness_formulation_spring_hardening_r.htm

  • Tetsuya
    Tetsuya Altair Community Member
    edited March 2022

    Hi, yes, the specific behaviour of H=8 is only available with Type 4 Spring, this is correct, and the manual states this too: Why do you need to use H=8 specifically? If you must use this, then you may use spring type 4 for your axial behaviour, but you must leave another spring (Type 13) coincident to constrain the other DOF

    image

     

    all other 'H' types (H =0-7) are also nonlinear elastic springs with force/displacement input though, they just have different hardening behaviours. The simplest input is with H=0, the spring in this case will just follow the input curves for load/unload

    image

     

    https://2021.help.altair.com/2021.2/hwsolvers/rad/topics/solvers/rad/stiffness_formulation_spring_hardening_r.htm

    Thank you for your reply. I thought when implementing stiffness vs displacement curve H=8 should be used. Perfect, I can just use H=0 in that case!