🎉Community Raffle - Win $25

An exclusive raffle opportunity for active members like you! Complete your profile, answer questions and get your first accepted badge to enter the raffle.
Join and Win

Difference between Transient direct and Transient modal

User: "Altair Forum User"
Altair Employee
Updated by Altair Forum User

Hi all,

could someone explain me the difference between a Transient direct and a Transient modal analysis? Which may I use to analyze the vibrational behavior of a system?

 

Thanks

Find more posts tagged with

Sort by:
1 - 7 of 71
    User: "Pranav Hari"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by Pranav Hari

    Hi @Ferrari248F1AQ

     

    You can try getting an idea about Transient direct and a Transient modal analysis from Optistruct Help tutorials.

     

    Refer 

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>image.thumb.png.45173cc638fb993e661a6a6eee9db954.png

    User: "Rahul Rajan_21763"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Rahul Rajan_21763

    You can refer attached pdf from OptiStruct user guide.

    Use below link to download free eBook on Dynamic analysis using OptiStruct.

    https://altairuniversity.com/free-ebook-learn-dynamic-analysis-with-altair-optistruct/

     

    Unable to find an attachment - read this blog

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Thanks

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    OP
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    I am getting a huge difference in result for the same problem solved in modal transient and direct transient respectively. Can some explain how much difference we can expect and what are factor affecting the difference? 

    User: "FaroukM"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by FaroukM

    I am getting a huge difference in result for the same problem solved in modal transient and direct transient respectively. Can some explain how much difference we can expect and what are factor affecting the difference? 

     

    It's normal to have a difference between direct transient and modal transient ... Just make sure that your synthesis modal basis is large enough to ensure to convergence and normally you will approach the results of the direct transient ;)/emoticons/default_wink.png' srcset='/emoticons/wink@2x.png 2x' title=';)' width='20' />

    User: "Adriano_Koga"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Adriano_Koga

    Like mentioned by Farouk, in order for your modal transient to represent well your problem, you need to take care with the timestep used and also the frequency range used in your modal basis.

    As a rule of thumb, if your frequency of interest in the transient analysis is fn, them your modal analysis should cover at least 1.5*fn.

     

    Modal frf/transient needs enough modes to represent the structure behavior as a combination of the normal modes.

    Also make sure RESVEC is on. (Residual vectors increase the accuracy of the modal transient)

    User: "FaroukM"
    Altair Community Member
    Updated by FaroukM

    Well done.

     

    least 1.5*fn

    I just want to add some details: when you have a dumped system, we recommand  to increase the multiplying coefficient. In my last modal simulation with a dumped system, the convergence is reached with \alpha = 5 ( 5*fn) !