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Calculation of 2D Aspect Ratio

User: "tinh"
Altair Community Member
Updated by tinh

Dear all,

I have one element (quad)

I check its aspect ratio by F10 panel is ~3.4 but when I check by quality index, it is ~4.2

What is wrong?

(settings: minsize => shortest edges, aspect => ideas)

Please help, if it is hm bug, was it fixed in HM2017?

 

the element:

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    User: "Sanjay Nainani_20973"
    New Altair Community Member
    Updated by Sanjay Nainani_20973

    Hello,

     

    I downloaded your model and opened in HM2017. 

    For me aspect ratio by F10 panel is 4.2 same as by quality index.

     

    Thankyou

     

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    User: "tinh"
    Altair Community Member
    OP
    Updated by tinh

    Does anyone know how value 4.23 was calculated?

    In hm help document, ideas aspect of quad is calculated by maxlength/{sqrt(2)*interior_circle_radius} ~3.4

     

    Could you check if anything updated in HM2017?

     

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi Tinh,

    Yes, I noticed the difference. These values are different for F10 and quality index panel.

    I'll check internally and will update you very soon.

     

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hello tinh,

    Greetings!!!

     

    I believe we are obtaining A/P ratio of 4.23 when the settings option is set to MINIMAL NORMALIZED HEIGHT in HM.

     

    Source: https://www.engmorph.com/2d-element-aspect-ratio-diff-simula

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    User: "tinh"
    Altair Community Member
    OP
    Updated by tinh

    Thanks, but with minimal normalized height, my element must have aspect equal 5.39/1.18 = 4.56

    and I am calculating aspect by ideas formulation which is not maxlength/minlength

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi Tinh,

    This is a bug which was reported and this issue will be fixed in the next update (2017.2.2).

    User: "tinh"
    Altair Community Member
    OP
    Updated by tinh

    Thanks George, do you know how to calculate value 4.23 as quality index panel? If there is an obvious formular, I can make a checking template easily.

    User: "Altair Forum User"
    Altair Employee
    Updated by Altair Forum User

    Hi Tinh,

    I think in this case it has taken ratio of the longest edge of an element to either its shortest edge (5.4/1.3=4.2), which is the Element Quality Calculation for HyperMesh.

     

     

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