Contact analysis

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Dear All,

 

how can i resolve this error.?

 

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Answers

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    Hi @Ganesh Munge

    Is your problem a case of large deformation? What is the contact interface you defined? And at what load step your solution is being non-covergent? And which error value is resulting in non covergence?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    Dear Nachiket,

    Thanks for support,

    Issue was of equivalence. I forgot to do the same. Now it is sorted out.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    Dear @Prakash Pagadala, @Nachiket Kadu

     

    Suppose

    case 1:

    I have an interference of 80 microns in shaft and housing and

     

    case 2:

    if i have gap of 80 micron bet same.

    how can i define frictional contact contact between above cases.

     

    can you revert with when to define search distance and when to define clearance. also, how to choose track

     

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  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    @Ganesh Munge

    Search distance is used define contact condition between slave and master, as in only those nodes will be in contact which satisfy the search distance criteria. Clearance defines the the distance the master and slave need to move so as to be in contact.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    If I have interference, What should i use clearance or search distance?

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    @Ganesh Munge

    I am not sure about previous version but negative clearance in 2017.3 is defines inititial penetration. @Prakash Pagadala correct me if i am wrong!!

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    If I have interference, What should i use clearance or search distance?

    Is your geometry in base size or tolerances are already included?

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    @Ganesh Munge

    refer this

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    geometry is with tolerances,

     

    these parts are in interference fit (image1) of 80 microns, I used clearence of -0.090. but after completion of simulation it is showing gap like in image 2

     

     

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  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

    geometry is with tolerances,

     

    these parts are in interference fit (image1) of 80 microns, I used clearence of -0.090. but after completion of simulation it is showing gap like in image 2

     

     

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    As in no contact u mean to say?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    As in no contact u mean to say?

     

    These are in contact, 

    Outer ring of bearing is press fitted into the housing with the above mentioned interference value.

    as per physics, housing should expand and outer ring should contact.

    here outer ring is getting contracted and creating gap between housing and outer ring as i showed above in Image 2.

    my question is why it is showing gap?, outer ring should touch housing inner surface.

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  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2018

     

    These are in contact, 

    Outer ring of bearing is press fitted into the housing with the above mentioned interference value.

    as per physics, housing should expand and outer ring should contact.

    here outer ring is getting contracted and creating gap between housing and outer ring as i showed above in Image 2.

    my question is why it is showing gap?, outer ring should touch housing inner surface.

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    That gap which you are mentioning you checked distance between those node?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2018

    HI,

     

    Positive CLEARANCE is equal to the distance that slave and master surfaces have to move towards each other in order to close the contact,

     

    Negative CLEARANCE indicates contacting bodies have initial penetrations and is equal to resolving interference-fit / press-fit problems

     

    SRCHDIS is important in both cases.