Pretension with Slide and Freeze Surfaces

Altair Forum User
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edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hi, I have to do a NormalModeAnalysis of an assembly. At all there are 11 parts, 4 of them are srews that are pretensioned. There is also a static load and I want to consider that some parts move under this load (small displacement).

With PretensionManager I took under account pretension and with AutoContact I create Surface-Surface Contacts (some freeze, some slide).

My pretension LoadStep is non-linear quasi-static with NLPARM. If I run the Analysis it stops with different error Messages depending on what i have given in NLPARM.

 

Is my Setup right for what I want to do and if it is what is the Problem? I have never done this in OptiStruct but know it from SolidThinking.

 

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Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Wow! so much contact pairs are in your model!=)

    it's not good model for first issue=) you should do some simple test at first=)

    i will check this, but i am newbie in optistruct. )

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited October 2018

    force direction is incorrect=)

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited October 2018

    Hi, colleagues!

    why does not increment increase?

     

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Hi Mrt, thank you for your interest.

     

    Which Force do you mean? A Pretension Force?

    There is also a static load in negative z-direction, that is right

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Which Force do you mean? A Pretension Force?

    There is also a static load in negative z-direction, that is right

    i don't know. i haven't had experience for pretension in optistruct.

    i have tried to change direction, but i had the same result. solution goes, but result i don't like.

    do you mean that we can't choose preload force direction?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    It is possible to choose the orientation in Pretension Manager but I think it is set on the normal pretension of a bolt or screw by default...

     

    If I use a linear static load step the results are not useful, it shows me only one screw if I select displacement.

    What is your Setup in the second post?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Hey!

    i have an idea!

    i will check it.)

    try to off static load=) to my mind you shoul switch on it on second step=) Forces apply together, although this is wrong way. )

    i will check it too!=)

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Yeah!

    pretension works properly!

    create another step and move static load.=)

     

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Do you run it with or without non-linear quasi-static LoadStep?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    Sorry, I can not unzip such files. Can you uploud only the .h3d file? Thank you very much!

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    I checked the file but stops because there is no convergence if the Loadstep reaches 1... what is the reason for that?

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    i don't know.

    maybe you should update your version=)

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    I got it, the Problem was the Error tolerance for displacement, I flaged it out and the Analysis runs.

     

    Thank you very much for your help Mrt!

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    welcome=)

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2018

    I got it, the Problem was the Error tolerance for displacement, I flaged it out and the Analysis runs.

     

    Thank you very much for your help Mrt!

    Hi too much deviation from error tolerance may result is unexpected results. Try to keep it in limits.