Problem of contact between pretension

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

At first I have practiced the pretension and contact in optistruct.

 

And I used the non-linear quasi static analysis.

 

This time my problems are when I set the bolt for pretension at it middle face and I set contact between bolt and frame.

 

Why my bolt will fly away like the photo. ( I use the NLOUT for the iteration h3d file)

 

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My contact setting is like this

 

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Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi,

     

    Can you try with SLIDE instead of PCONT?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala 

     

    But I have coefficient of static and dynamic friction.

     

    And I have read the help of your suggestion, it means

     

     Sliding contact (applied to both open and closed contacts).

     

    I don't really understand what it means.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Yes, sliding contact can be used for open and closed contact (NO gap)

     

    Try with PARAM>>EXPLRTNL>>CNTSTB and check if this helps?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala Thanks for your suggestion. It will not fly away.

     

    Sorry about I late to reply to you because I am waiting for the NLOUT result.

     

    I now have a question about my deformation situation. It looks strange.

     

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi @LKZ

     

    I suspect, there is some issue with contacts. 

    Could you please share the file?

     

     

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala  Thanks to your apply.

     

    I am sorry I may not share the file at here but can you message me your email or contact method.

     

    Because I can't message you.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi @LKZ

     

    Please use this  secured link to upload your files https://ftam1.altair.com/filedrop/~Ce4god 

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala Thanks for your help.

     

    I have sent the mail for you.

     

    Do you receive the mail?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi @LKZ

     

    Yes, I got the files.

     

    BTW, the animation you posted is it from final h3d or from <filename>.nl.h3d?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala 

     

    I posted it from <filename>.nl.h3d

     

    and I just set 1group of contact.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Then, I would say wait for the final result. As said before, .nl will only help to monitor non-linear run, but what you see is not the final animation. 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala  Thanks to your help.

     

    But at the analysis process, We can see the deformation and the parts are fly away in NLOUT file.

     

    Do you see any mistakes of my model?

     

    Because I have used what I learned to set the model. 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi @LKZ

     

    I don't see any broad mistakes in the model.

     

    Did the analysis finish on your end?

     

    Do you see reasonable results are still the problem persists?

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @Prakash Pagadala Thanks to your apply.

     

    The analysis doesn't have this problem. I have solved it.

     

    And most bolts have pretension on the model.

     

    I have updated my new problem just about the convergence problems.

     

    I have posted it at other article.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    @LKZ

     

    OK, Glad to know about that.