Using 'external' word2vec models

kayman
kayman New Altair Community Member
edited November 5 in Community Q&A
Hi there, might be overlooking something but when I tried to use some word2vec models generated using colab I got an error message as below :

Message: Expected a space in the first line of file '/data/models/word2vec/tryout': 'ﾀcgensim.models.word2vec'

Does this mean we cannot really use word2vec models generated outside of rapidminer, even if they are generated 'according to the rules'?
Or is there a way to bypass these errors?

I could in the end regenerate the model in rapidminer also, but it's a bit less friendly on server resources and limits sharing across different apps so I'd prefer to be able to create once and share many.

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  • sgenzer
    sgenzer
    Altair Employee
    cc @mschmitz
  • MartinLiebig
    MartinLiebig
    Altair Employee
    Hi @kayman ,

    did you try the read word2vec model operator on the file?

    BR,
    Martin
  • kayman
    kayman New Altair Community Member

    It is the read word2vec model operator that gives me the error.
    It doesn't really work the other way around either. Creating a word2vec model using Rapidminer works fine within RM, but the model fails if I want to use it in a python workflow using Gensim. Then I get a UnpicklingError stating invalid load key.

    Guess they are not fully compatible indeed?




  • kayman
    kayman New Altair Community Member
    Hi @mschmitz,

    Gensim is also using binaries, but I went through some of the documentation and they state as follows : 

    The training algorithms were originally ported from the C package https://code.google.com/p/word2vec/ and extended with additional functionality and optimizations over the years.

    So probably the changes are what causes the incompatibility problem. 

    Thanks anyway, I'll dig deeper in the documentation to understand if there is a way to get a more 'core' format output , and otherwise it's just working with duplicates.
  • MartinLiebig
    MartinLiebig
    Altair Employee
    Hi @kayman,
    we will probably touch word2vec "soon". I'll add gensim compatibility to the todo list.
    BR,
    Martin
  • kayman
    kayman New Altair Community Member
    Thanks @mschmitz

    Anyway, some further diving into the gensim code learned me that with using alternative load and save methods using KeyedVectors the model can be interchangeable after all.

    For the ones interested, loading a rapidminer generated model with gensim word2vec can be done like this : 
    myModel = gensim.models.KeyedVectors.load_word2vec_format(path_to_model_from_RapidMiner, binary=True)
    Saving a model from gensim to be used with rapidminer requires the save_word2vec_format, rather than using the 'gensim optimised' save procedures.

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