[Solved]Sort by Pareto Ranking doesn't work

Hi everybody ,

I have a dataset which we can say it's large , I want to do a ranking based on two attributes in an ordered fashion (first by id then by date), so I guess Pareto must be my choice ,

but when I sort it with SORT operator it works in a reasonable time but when I do it with the Pareto operator (even in the case when there's only 1 attribute : ID/DATE) it works really slow , the same when I define two attributes in the pareto ,

is there a problem with this operator in rapidminer ?

Thanks
Arian

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MariusHelf

Hi Arian,

just use to Sort operators in a row. In your case, the first one should sort by date, the second by id.

Best regards,
Marius

aryan_hosseinza

Hi ,

But I want to do a nested sorted (first round by ID and second one by DATE , sort of group by in SQL) , but I guess if I do two consecutive sorts it won't result what I want , right ?

MariusHelf

Just try it, and come back to tell me if you like what you see

Seriously, an explanation of why it will work: the Sort operator in RapidMiner keeps the order of attributes in a "group". Thus first sorting by date, then by id will result in a dataset sorted by id, where rows with identical id are sorted by date.

Best regards,
Marius

aryan_hosseinza

Yes , It worked ! So why is it necessary to have Sort By Pareto Ranking then ?

Thanks ,
Arian

MariusHelf

Hi, Pareto Ranking actually is a completely different concept which has nothing to do with your problem. It can be used for multi-objective optimization problems. The closer all selected attributes are to the optimum, the lower the pareto rank. (Keyword pareto front). In RapidMiner, the optimum is positive infinity.

In [url=http://www.daylight.com/meetings/emug01/Gillet/img13.htm]this (click here)[url] image the blue points have the same pareto rank, since they have the same distance to the optimum.

Best regards,
Marius

aliasgarscool

Hi, I've similar problem only difference is that I want nested sorting for 3 attribute eg. ID wise (assending), date wise (assending) and amount wise (assending). So when I use sort 3 times in the following order amount wise, date wise and ID wise - resluts is not nested a nested sorting insted it only give nested sorting of two level i.e., ID wise and Date wise - Please guide - Thanks in advance

BalazsBaranyRM

Hi!

Sorting by multiple attributes is not implemented in the Sort operator in RapidMiner.

A workaround is to create a new attribute (e. g. "sortkey") from the attributes you're trying to sort on and then use that in the sort operation.

I frequently use Generate Attributes for this, converting numerical and date attributes using a fixed pattern (e. g. 000000 or yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss) and concatenating them with an additional separator. Your sort attribute could then have values like this: 000001/2016-11-07 14:30:51/113.30.

Regards,

Balázs