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Recurrent neural networks

prolog

Are recurrent neural networks available in RapidMiner 5?

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haddock

No.

wessel

What do you want to do with these?

prolog

wessel wrote:

What do you want to do with these?

Well time series prediction.
Feed-forward NNs can't handle time series prediction well.

wessel

As far as I know this is still active research.
You have research showing recurrent networks being superior to feed-forward networks for time series forecasting?

Recurrent neural networks are superior for modelling cognitive processes.
Since recurrence is proven to be an important part of the workings of our brain.

If you plan to do research comparing feed-forward networks and recurrent networks, I would strongly recommend to create an own implementation.

prolog

Recurrent NNs are quite mature already.
They are several decades old.
They are like a standard tool to model dynamical systems.

Feedforward NNs can't extrapolate time series data well. They can only interpolate/do curve-fitting.
You need recurrent NNs to predict time series generated by dyanamical systems

wessel

prolog wrote:

Recurrent NNs are quite mature already.
They are several decades old.
They are like a standard tool to model dynamical systems.

For modelling cognitive processes yes.

prolog wrote:

Feedforward NNs can't extrapolate time series data well. They can only interpolate/do curve-fitting.
You need recurrent NNs to predict time series generated by dyanamical systems

Show me the proof? :P

Qorrect

This conversation is already five years old, and there's still no RNN's in Rapid Miner ? I googled it and this was the first thing to come up ...

Thomas_Ott

RNN is not stock in RapidMiner at this very moment. That said we have the DeepLearning4j extension available from our partner, you can check it out here: https://www.rapidminerchina.com/en/products/shop/product/deeplearning4j/

lists

Are there any plans to implement it native- incl. LSTMs?

Love you all.

Thomas_Ott

Not to this moment but since Tensor Flow has an Java API now, maybe some intrepid Java developer could take a stab it and build a Tensor Flow extension.

alihasan

isnot recurrent neural network implemented in rapidminer still??