"Extracting NN weights for use in other application."

wessel
wessel New Altair Community Member
edited November 5 in Community Q&A
Dear All,

I wish to train a neural-network in RM, and export the weights to another Java program.

RM provides the following text output:
Node 1 (Sigmoid)    Node 2 (Sigmoid)  Output (Linear) 
----------------  ----------------  ------------------- 
att1: -0.198      att1: -1.080      Node 1: 1.210     
att2: 0.399        att2: -0.660      Node 2: -2.484       
att3: 0.736        att3: -0.370      Threshold: 0.615
att4: 0.472        att4: -0.740         
Threshold: -0.439  Threshold: 0.351         

But this is of no use, since these weights are not in full double precision.


When I use the model writer to write an XML file, I think I do get the proper weights,
somewhere in the file, but the question is "where exactly".
For example:
            <inputNodes id="73">
              <com.rapidminer.operator.learner.functions.neuralnet.InnerNode id="74">
                <weights id="75">
                  <double>-0.4394771578377415</double>
                  <double>-0.19801951972474785</double>
                  <double>0.3992843094056797</double>
                  <double>0.7363213055568706</double>
                  <double>0.4723782999051438</double>

                      <com.rapidminer.operator.learner.functions.neuralnet.InnerNode reference="74"/>
                      <com.rapidminer.operator.learner.functions.neuralnet.InnerNode id="91">
                        <weights id="92">
                          <double>0.3506573392426525</double>
                          <double>-1.0796773279531984</double>
                          <double>-0.6600984419916611</double>
                          <double>-0.36967194141103804</double>
                          <double>-0.7402183227344546</double>
                        </weights>
                        <weightChanges

These seem to correspond to the weights of hidden node 2.
But this XML file contains a lot more then just weights.

Best regards,

Wessel
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Answers

  • land
    land New Altair Community Member
    Hi Wessel,
    the easiest and somehow quirky way would be to just increase the number of digits RapidMiner presents to the user. This is possible in the properties menu. It holds true for almost all places in RapidMiner and hence it should work with the Neural Net, too.

    Greetings,
      Sebastian