Table for non-linear spring for using in PBUSHT

gopal_rathore
gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hi,

Want to know about how to input a non-linear spring involving both tension and compression scenarios as table for PBUSHT property.

Any sign convention to be followed for it.

Currently I am entering force in Y axis and displacement in X axis, but getting absurd results which might be due to sign convention or axis selection etc.

 

Kindly let me know about it.

Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi Gopal,

     

    You can have both tension and compression in PBUSHT card (force Vs Disp, KN line) through TABLED1 card. You can have negative and positive magnitudes.

     

    Can you check if there are any discontinuities in tabled1 card?

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>tabd1.PNG

  • gopal_rathore
    gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
    edited May 2017

    Hi,

    Thank you will check this.
    Also when we take output for spring element forces, does the X, Y and Z correspond to the local coordinate system of spring or the global coordinate system?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Gopal,

     

    It will be in global coordinate system unless the element system is different.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi prakash,

     

    I want to define the force vs Displacement curve for spring elements and run the analysis can you please guide me how to define the cards and curves. If possible can you please share any model file. So that it will easy to understand.

     

    Thanks 

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi Dinesh,

     

    You can use PBUSHT with KN field which helps to define force Vs Deflection curve. 

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>PBUSHT.PNG

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    thanks prakash,

     

    I have define the values in load collector and i have called the load collector in KN line but ii am getting the error as shown in below could you please help me how to define the table and whether selecting the table in to KN line procudure i am doing is right or wrong ?

     

     

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    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>picture1.PNG

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi DInesh,

     

    Can you activate K_Line and run the analysis?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi prakash ,

     

    Even if i activate K Line, It giving same error.

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi DInesh,

     

    Can you share the model file using file transfer link in my signature below?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi Prakash,

     

    Can you please tell how to define variable pressure in optistruct..

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi DInesh,

     

    Watch this video.

    Unable to find an attachment - read this blog

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Thanks prakash..

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hi Prakash ,

     

    I have transfer the file....Please check once...

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    @dineshreddy

     

    Thank you  I will check and update to you soon 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Dinesh,

    Model is working fine at my end. Please let me know if you need any help. 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2017

    Hi prakash,

     

    Do have any tutorial model for seal & pressure load case for BIW component 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2017

    Hi @dineshreddy

     

    RIght now I don't, but I will check if there is any available from database. 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2017

    Thanks praksh 

     

    Or if not possible can please some information about that load case

  • gopal_rathore
    gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
    edited June 2017

    Hi,

    Are you having force -displacement curve for different pressure cases as observed in air suspension of a vehicle?