Problem in initial velcoity

RAMGANESH
RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Dear Sir,

 

I am working on the impact analysis of the bullet on the kevlar fibre  i have given the velocity 950 m/s but the simulation is not running properly. kindly provide your guidelines

 

 

Thanks 

RAM

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  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Hi,

     

    Please make sure that the unit should be consistent. 

    In input deck of /BEGIN first two lines of input  unit & working unit should be same.

     

    Regards

    Rahul R

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    Units are consistence in my file

     

    Thanks

    RAM

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    How long it is running?

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    26.06 secs

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  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    looks like Run completed.What problem you are facing?

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Yes sir, the run is completed but the bullet is not moving as expected..

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    I shared my model to you sir kindly check and inform the corrections to be made....

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Hi,

    I don't see any Engine parameter in your deck. Please define common engine parameter & run.

    See attached screenshot for the same.

    Regards

    Rahul R

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  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    I have already defined all engine parameters but while generating deck file from hypermesh it doesn't exported.however selected the merge starter and engine icon during export and generated the deck file with engine parameters as you mentioned but while solving geeting zero or negative volume for 3D element error 166

     

    Thanks 

    Ram

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Hi,

    Use the small strain formulation with 8 integration points solid elements to overcome this negative volume error.

    Set Isolid =14 with Inpts =222. Also set Icpre =1 for elastic or visco-elastic material law, and Icpre =2 for elasto-plastic laws.

    This should fix the error and give you good results, let me know if this helps.

    See attached Doc as well.

    Regards

    Rahul R

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  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    Same error occurs after the corrections made as per your instruction.

     

    Thanks

    Ram

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Share the updated file to my FTP.

    Regards

    Rahul R

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    File shared

     

    Thanks

    Ram

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    Did you receive my updated model which i had send yesterday.

     

    Thanks

    Ram

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Hi,

    I got your model yesterday.Let me take a look and get back to you.

    Regards

    Rahul R

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    I am awaiting for your guidelines Sir

     

    Thanks

    Ram

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Hi Ram,

     

    As I have told in an earlier post, please check your interface definition,

     

    Please go through the examples and tutorials available on RADIOSS help for more information.

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    I have created the interface between the bullet and composite fibre.

    Type 7

    Master part = Bullet

    Slave part = composite fibre.

    I have updated the parts and review the components ..

     

    What error i have done in this interface please mention Sir,It will be helpful for my current and future work

     

    Thanks

    Ram

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Ram,

     

    in your model you hvae used type 20.

     

    Though this will work but there is no master and slave surfaces defined in this contact. Please check.

     

     

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  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    I have used type 20 as well as type 7 and checked the model for the run but the same error occurs.

     

    Kindly find the screenshot below

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Ram,

     

    You need to create a contact surface and node group for slave and master segments when you use type7 

     

    Selecting components when creating type 7 may not work.

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    What is the procedure for it?

     

    Is there is any tutorial for it?

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

     

    As per your instruction I have created the contact surfaces on the Composite fiber and created entity node sets on the bullet and updated the interfaces then run the simulation but the same error occurs.

     

    Thanks

    Ram

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Hi Ram,

    The contact direction is wrong in your model.

    I suggest you to go through the tutorials on RADIOSS help on how to create contact surfaces and interfaces.

     

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

    I had run the model which you had sent after creating the engine parameters but my simulation gives results like these

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  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

    I am expecting results like these 

     

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    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>exp2.JPG

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

    I have given initial velocity of 1300 m/s in z axis but the bullet is not moving as expected .

    I think my error will be on time definition on engine parameters.

    Kindly guide me

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Ram,

    check material properties and if you think time is a factor, increase the simulation in \RUN

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

    if i increase the time in \RUN the solving time increases larger

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>remaining time.JPG

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    Dear Sir,

    I have tried with different time in \RUN the result is same but the solving time only increases .The bullet is not moving as expected