Modal effective mass

Sai Vignesh
Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Kindly find the attached out file

 

In effective modal mass i am getting my total mass  in translation direction

 

Why not in rotation of X direction?

 

Is the unit different when it comes to translation and rotation ?

 

Thanks for your help

 

 

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Answers

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited January 2019

    The Modal Effective mass in the Trans X, Y and Z directions and Rotational X, Y and Z direction have the same units.

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited January 2019

    The Modal Effective mass in the Trans X, Y and Z directions and Rotational X, Y and Z direction have the same units.

    Thanks for reply but in total mass in rotational directions why it is not equal to total mass? in translation i get my total mass equal to system mass but in rotational it shows 250kg which is more than my over all system mass

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited January 2019

    The Modal Effective Mass is a measure of how much mass is associated with each mode.So for the more prominent mode you will get more mass.

     

     

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Thanks for the answer Rahul

     

    Yet still why do i see high mass value in rotation direction 

     

    Mass value in rotation direction is higher than my system mass

     

    kindly clarify

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    I see you have requested only first two modes, which might be missing critical data and under predicting response of the system.I request you to run with ND as 25 modes in EIGRL card and then evaluate the response in out file.

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Hi Rahul 

     

    I am trying to co relate analysis calculation vs theoretical calculation so i took simple 2dof system so it will have oly 2 natural frequencies

     

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    have a look at my model setup and let me know why  rotational mass comes wrong

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  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Can you share .out file of the run?

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    have a look at this my total mass is 4kg   in translation i get my total mass but in rotation i get 250 kg 

     

    Kindly clarify whats wrong

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  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Thanks for sharing .out file.Can you also share .fem file to try this on latest version.

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    You can check my trial model.

    Unable to find an attachment - read this blog

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Hi

     

    I checked your model there is no stiffness assigned for CELAS2 and you have created PELAS1 AND THE ELEMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN ASSIGNED STIFNNESS?

     

    I have attached my model run the same and let me know what mistake has been made

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  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Also let me know if i could contact you through phone

     

    I want to sort this out sooner

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    Why you are expecting translation and rotation to be same.The Modal Effective Mass is a measure of how much mass is associated with each mode.

    Please try effmass on other model to understand its output.

     

  • Sai Vignesh
    Sai Vignesh Altair Community Member
    edited February 2019

    I have tried and its not same 

     

    It would be clear if we could have chat or call to explain clearly what is my issue

     

    Let me know