Reference Document Request

Ovunc2
Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
edited December 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello,

I am working on sloshing motion of water in a tank. I got some feedback on number of particle in Altair Community. But unfortunately, I do not have a document that I can refer to as a reference in my studies.

Do you have a technical document or academic paper on how solutions change with the increasing number of particles that I can use as a reference?

Thank you.

Regards

Answers

  • Rahul_P1
    Rahul_P1
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Perhaps this helps - https://altairuniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Example_6.pdf 

    you should find the Radioss example model files in the installation and the example document in Help

  • Andy_20955
    Andy_20955 New Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

    I assume you are using SPH particles?  I don't think there are any studies about the number of particles available in the help.  It depends on the problem, the speed of the computer you have available to run the simulation, and how long you want to wait for results.  More particles means longer solution times.

    I would start with less particles and make sure the simulation is running and that your boundary conditions are correct.  Then you can add increase the number of particles to study how the results change. 

    Thanks,

    Andy

  • Ovunc2
    Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Perhaps this helps - https://altairuniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Example_6.pdf 

    you should find the Radioss example model files in the installation and the example document in Help

    Hi Rahul, 

    Thanks for sharing @Rahul Ponginan .

    I've seen this study before. But, unfortunately this is not about the change in the number of particles.

    Thanks. 

    Regards, 

     

  • Ovunc2
    Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

    I assume you are using SPH particles?  I don't think there are any studies about the number of particles available in the help.  It depends on the problem, the speed of the computer you have available to run the simulation, and how long you want to wait for results.  More particles means longer solution times.

    I would start with less particles and make sure the simulation is running and that your boundary conditions are correct.  Then you can add increase the number of particles to study how the results change. 

    Thanks,

    Andy

    Hi @Andy 

    Thank you for information. 

    I have asked before in topic: 

    https://community.altair.com/community?id=community_question&sys_id=0176443a1b2bd0908017dc61ec4bcb66

    • Can we say that as the number of particles increases, the results get closer to a certain value?

    And after a certain number of particles, increasing the  particle number wont effect the simulation results? (which is the case for mesh convergence in FEM analyses)

     

    Thank you. 

    Best Regards, 

     

  • Andy_20955
    Andy_20955 New Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020
    Ovunc2 said:

    Hi @Andy 

    Thank you for information. 

    I have asked before in topic: 

    https://community.altair.com/community?id=community_question&sys_id=0176443a1b2bd0908017dc61ec4bcb66

    • Can we say that as the number of particles increases, the results get closer to a certain value?

    And after a certain number of particles, increasing the  particle number wont effect the simulation results? (which is the case for mesh convergence in FEM analyses)

     

    Thank you. 

    Best Regards, 

     

    Hi @Ovunc2 

    Yes I agree with your statement.

    Thanks,

    Andy

  • Ovunc2
    Ovunc2 Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020

    Hi @Ovunc2 

    Yes I agree with your statement.

    Thanks,

    Andy

    Hi , 

    Thank you @Andy.

    Best Regards,