ZERO OR NEGATIVE VOLUME FOR 3D-ELEMENT

oggy
oggy Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

My calculation was stopped because of this error :

 

MESSAGE ID :          166

 

 ** STOP : ZERO OR NEGATIVE VOLUME FOR 3D-ELEMENT ID=1072061

 

 

any idea plz ?

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2015

    HI,

     

    Please refer to RADIOSS Frequently asked questions on RADIOSS help to find out an answer image/emoticons/default_smile.png' alt=':)' srcset='<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/smile@2x.png 2x' width='20' height='20'>

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  • oggy
    oggy Altair Community Member
    edited March 2015

    Thanks a lot Mr Prakash Pagadala

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2015

    same error comes to me but cant rectified by changing flags

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2015

    Pankaj,

     

    please share the model.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi. I get the same error using Radioss to simulate the impact of a bullet against a wall: ZERO OR NEGATIVE VOLUME FOR 3D-ELEMENT ID=

    but I don't understant how to fix it. Could you somehow help me out? This is the model https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5vct1x7cfcqtwx/proiettile_02.hm?dl=0

     

    Thank you.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Mirino,

     

    could you please share the file through the dropbox link in my signature below?

     

    I cannot access the dropbox link you have given.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Prakash, I have sent you the file.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Mirino,

     

    There is element penetration happening in your model.

     

    please correct this.

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Prakash, I am asked in this exercise to verify whether or not the bullet penetrates the plate. If a penetration occurs, I would say that the bullet ultimately penetrates. However, it is not normal that the analysis does not run.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Mirino,

     

    can you make the bullet rigid?

     

    Make it to MAT/ELAST and check if you are happy with the results.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Prakash, I corrected the penetration there was in my model.

     

    I used for both the bullet and the plate the Johnson-Cook material.

     

    The plate has a thicnkess of 0.5mm with:

     

    plasticty yield stress of 235 MPa;

    plasticty maximum stress of 360 MPa

     

    Due to the small thickness, I thought the bullet would pierce the plate. On the contrary, I have this strange behaviour as you can see looking at the pictures I have attached (displacement in millimeters). (This is https://www.dropbox.com/s/36ic9m7dmqc34vv/proiettile_06.hm?dl=0 the file .hm and this the file .h3d https://www.dropbox.com/s/fozixsq1kptudwq/proiettile_06.h3d?dl=0 )

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    Hi Mirino,

     

    Are you expecting rupture of the elements in the plate?

     

    If yes, please have a look at the RADIOSS Example 26 - Ruptured Plate

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2015

    FYI

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