Exporting from fluxmotor to flux2d

Noti
Noti Altair Community Member
edited December 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello all, 

i need some help from your side. I'm trying to export my fluxmotor model to flux2d, but when i export it i dont get the same torque. 

Any advice from your side? I've uploaded my fluxmotor model here: 

 

https://www.sendspace.com/file/omqywr

 

Regards

Answers

  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hello Noti;

     

    FluxMotor is based on a mix between Finite elements method and Analytical method. The analytical method is used to compute the circuit, and Park model is used to compute the performances.

    The Park model need to respect some points, the first one is that only sine shape supply is used, and the second one is that the motor is supposed to be not very saturated.

     

    So it is normal to see a smal difference from what computed in FluxMotor and what you have in Flux.

     

    Can you attach your FluxMotor project directly here an not to use a link, if it is a big file, i will send you a link to upload your file.

     

    Regards 

  • Noti
    Noti Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    I attached my model here. Thanks for any advice. 

  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi;

     

    Can you please send us your FluxMotor project instead of the connector component to HyperStudy ?

     

    Regards 

  • Noti
    Noti Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hi;

     

    Can you please send us your FluxMotor project instead of the connector component to HyperStudy ?

     

    Regards 

    Hello, 

     

    i dont understand it, maybe because im not that experienced in flux/fluxmotor. I moved that folder (which i exported from Hyperstudy)to the fluxmotor catalog and opened it from there. 

     

    Regards

  • Noti
    Noti Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hello all, 

     

    any advice from your side?

     

    Best regards 

  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi; 

     

    Please send me your FluxMotor project, the one you sent is not the right one.

     

    Do you know how to send it ?

     

    Regards 

  • Noti
    Noti Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hello, 

    i dont get your point, i exported that project from Hyperstudy and i open it on fluxmotor. For me it works right if i move the folder to the FluxMotor\FluxMotor2019.1\UserCatalog\User_SM_PM_IR_3Ph\Motors

     

    But as i mentioned im novice, so maybe im doing it wrong. So can you please guide me and tell me what should i do?

     

    Thank you in advance and best regards

  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi ;

     

    Please follow the process described in the following pdf.

     

    Regards 

  • Noti
    Noti Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hello, 

     

    thank you for your guide. I did the same the other time but anyway, please let me know if it works for you now. Thank you! 

     

    Best Regards 

    Test1.zip 1009.8K
  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2020

    Hello; 

    Thank you for the file, now I managed to recover your FluxMotor project.

     

    I made two tests one with 1100 A as you did, here the results from FluxMotor are far from the Flux 2D one.

     

    The second test is with 110 A, here I hade 1680 Nm from Flux and 1704 Nm from FluxMotor. 

     

    The first test lead to a very saturated machine, and in this cas, FluxMotor is not adapted to make this study. As I answered previously, FluxMotor is using Park Model, so the studied machine should not be saturated, otherwise we will have lot of harmonics that the model do not take into account.

     

    Please note, that in the test I PSI N, you have access to the flux density color shad, so you can see that a big part of the machine is close to 2T or more, that can give you a first answer on the accuracy of FluxMotor results when the machine is saturated.

     

    I hope this will help you.

     

    Best regards