Model creation of AIRBAG

Harsh2610
Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello,

I want to simulate plastic pouch so as to check Inflation or bulge in it when,

1. Air is filled

2. Product is filled

I go through AIRBAG example but confused how to create pouch or airbag model in hypermesh. Please guide me

 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

     Please find the video attached which shows Airbag Simulation.

    Also, please go through  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCSRFss6GDE&list=PLQ7KUGFuVz4u5y3SvIEIU07427-gATaG6&index=5 which is a webinar showing creating monitored volume in RADIOSS.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

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  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello George,

    Thanks for reference material.

    Actully, I need a help to create pouch model first. Can u tell me how to create it in HM

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    For the pouch create a surface in the required shape and create the surface set for the same which you can recall in the monitored volume card.

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello George,

    to create pouch, do i need to create upper surface and lower surface?

    If so, then  how to give connectivity between these two?

    Can You provide model file for the

    Hi,

     Please find the video attached which shows Airbag Simulation.

    Also, please go through  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCSRFss6GDE&list=PLQ7KUGFuVz4u5y3SvIEIU07427-gATaG6&index=5 which is a webinar showing creating monitored volume in RADIOSS.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

    Can you send model file for Airbag_simulation_setup

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  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello George,

     

    Do I need to create two surfaces, Upper and lower, to create pouch?

    If so, then how to give connectivity between them?

    how it become closed volume to use Monitored volume?

     

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi, 

    i'm sharing a simple pouch model. Please review the same.

    Create a /SURF/PART for the same and create /MONVOL/GAS with this set. Please go through the webinar shared above which shows the steps for creating monitored volume.

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  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello George,

    How did you make it ?

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    I think this model was taken from an open web source. It will be difficult to create such a profile in HyperMesh as it is not meant for CAD modelling. We can only create basic profiles in HyperMesh with which you can try creating such a profile.

     

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    I think this model was taken from an open web source. It will be difficult to create such a profile in HyperMesh as it is not meant for CAD modelling. We can only create basic profiles in HyperMesh with which you can try creating such a profile.

     

    Okk

     

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    can you share me model file of the video u shared with me ( Airbag_Simulation_setup)

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

    Please find the model files attached.

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  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    Please find the model files attached.

    files are not supported. i am using Hypermesh 13.0 Block 130

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    Please try with this file.

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  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello George, 

    Thank You.

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    Need more help as I proceed further.

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello,

    I am done with Airbag simulation.

    Is it possible to check failure of pouch material after air or mass flow in it?

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    There is no specific card or method to check the material failure.With the available simulation results user can check for the same in the model.

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Can I use other material card instead of Mat law 19 Fabric?

     

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Suppose i am simulating air balloon. I am filling air in balloon but after its capacity it get burst. If i want simulate this case, how can i do?

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    This is possible to simulate. You can try with a failure card in the model ( like /FAIL/TENSSTRAIN , which a strain failure model).

    Else just define a burst pressure (Pmax) in the /MONVOL card. Pmax is the maximum pressure that can be reach in the volume.  When this maximum pressure is reached then the pressure in the volume is set to Pext and no venting occurs anymore.  This would be like bursting. 

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hello George,

    Thank You.

    I will try for it.

    Can I use other material for pouch filling rather than air. such as water or any other liquid product?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    Yes, you can fill the pouch with liquid. You can try with SPH particles for the same.

    But let me know what is your objective of the analysis.

  • Harsh2610
    Harsh2610 Altair Community Member
    edited October 2017

    Hi,

    Actully I want to check pouch shape formation after filling of product in it. My trail with air was successful. but now i want to try with liquid product