How to change 1D mesh element pivot/ connection point?

Divakara Rao K
Divakara Rao K Altair Community Member
edited May 2023 in Community Q&A

Dear all, below is a 1D beam element (L Angle). In the below snap 'Existing Pivot point' is the one which has come by default.

How can I modify the pivot point as required to any point?

Revert at the earliest possible please.

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Thanks & Regards

 

Answers

  • Jason_Craanen
    Jason_Craanen
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2023

    Hello,

    What do you mean by "pivot point"?

    The point you are pointing at is the Shear Center, which is dependent on the geometry.

    https://help.altair.com/hwdesktop/hwx/topics/user_interface/model_browser_hyperbeam_view_graphics_window_r.htm#model_browser_hyperbeam_view_graphics_window_r

    Do you want to flip the whole section?

    image

  • Divakara Rao K
    Divakara Rao K Altair Community Member
    edited May 2023

    Hi Jason,

    Thanks for the reply.

    As you said, yes, it is the shear centre and it is a geometrical property.

    Now the beam section rotates about the shear centre if we assign a standard angle. Right? (This point of rotation I am terming as a 'Pivot point'.

    My question is, 'Is it possible the change point of rotation (Pivot point) to any other location as required instead of the shear centre?

    Hope I am clear. You may help better now.

    Thank you.

  • Jason_Craanen
    Jason_Craanen
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2023

    Hi Jason,

    Thanks for the reply.

    As you said, yes, it is the shear centre and it is a geometrical property.

    Now the beam section rotates about the shear centre if we assign a standard angle. Right? (This point of rotation I am terming as a 'Pivot point'.

    My question is, 'Is it possible the change point of rotation (Pivot point) to any other location as required instead of the shear centre?

    Hope I am clear. You may help better now.

    Thank you.

    Hello,

    I am sorry, I am still now following. The shear center is dependent on the geometry, so how can it change without changing the geometry? I showed how you can flip the section if that is what you are asking.

    Maybe I need to ask you, what is your intent with changing the pivot point?

  • Divakara Rao K
    Divakara Rao K Altair Community Member
    edited May 2023

    Hello,

    I am sorry, I am still now following. The shear center is dependent on the geometry, so how can it change without changing the geometry? I showed how you can flip the section if that is what you are asking.

    Maybe I need to ask you, what is your intent with changing the pivot point?

    Well, here my intent is explained with an example.

    Below is an 1D Beam of 'T' Section.

    image

    And when I assign the property, then the resultant representation is as below.

    image

     

    But the result I need is as below.

     

    image

    If 'Pivot Point' can be shifted to the point as indicated, section representation as required can be achieved.

    The above can be achieved using the offset option. But, if the 'pivot point' can be modified as required it will be easier.

    Hope I am clear with the intent now.

  • Jason_Craanen
    Jason_Craanen
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2023

    Well, here my intent is explained with an example.

    Below is an 1D Beam of 'T' Section.

    image

    And when I assign the property, then the resultant representation is as below.

    image

     

    But the result I need is as below.

     

    image

    If 'Pivot Point' can be shifted to the point as indicated, section representation as required can be achieved.

    The above can be achieved using the offset option. But, if the 'pivot point' can be modified as required it will be easier.

    Hope I am clear with the intent now.

    I don't think this has to do with the shear center of the beam section.

    This has to do with Beam edit of the Offset and Orientation of the element

    image

    You can look into these youtube videos on updating this

  • Divakara Rao K
    Divakara Rao K Altair Community Member
    edited May 2023

    I don't think this has to do with the shear center of the beam section.

    This has to do with Beam edit of the Offset and Orientation of the element

    image

    You can look into these youtube videos on updating this

    Yes, with offset and orientation, I am able to achieve what is required.

    For less number of elements, we can do it manually. But where the elements are in thousands with varying thicknesses of the plate and different sections. It has become hectic.

    If the 'pivot point' can be changed to the required position, the job becomes easy. If I just control the orientation there will not be any need of using the offset option.

  • Divakara Rao K
    Divakara Rao K Altair Community Member
    edited May 2023

    I don't think this has to do with the shear center of the beam section.

    This has to do with Beam edit of the Offset and Orientation of the element

    image

    You can look into these youtube videos on updating this

    Hi Jason,

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