Thermal simulation flux

Jawhar Ben Fredj_20487
Jawhar Ben Fredj_20487 New Altair Community Member
edited April 2021 in Community Q&A

Hi ,

anyone knows if i can do thermal simulation with water cooling plates ( simulate a water flow ) on flux ?

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  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2021

    Hello Jawhar;

     

    In Flux you can make thermal computation, it is only thermal conducting and the convection and radiation are actually considered as boundary conditions. You can also impose a temperature as boundary condition.

     

    So if you know the convection coefficient corresponding to the watter cooling, you can apply them on your Flux project. This is also the case for the air cooling.

     

    If you are going to make thermal computation on Permanent magnet motors, or induction motor, i suggest you to use FluxMotor. In FluxMotor you will have the thermal behavior, in addition to that it gives you all the convection coefficients on your machine that you can use also in your Flux project.

     

     

    From the suppervisor you can find intersting examples dealing with thermal computation:

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  • Jawhar Ben Fredj_20487
    Jawhar Ben Fredj_20487 New Altair Community Member
    edited April 2021

    Hello Jawhar;

     

    In Flux you can make thermal computation, it is only thermal conducting and the convection and radiation are actually considered as boundary conditions. You can also impose a temperature as boundary condition.

     

    So if you know the convection coefficient corresponding to the watter cooling, you can apply them on your Flux project. This is also the case for the air cooling.

     

    If you are going to make thermal computation on Permanent magnet motors, or induction motor, i suggest you to use FluxMotor. In FluxMotor you will have the thermal behavior, in addition to that it gives you all the convection coefficients on your machine that you can use also in your Flux project.

     

     

    From the suppervisor you can find intersting examples dealing with thermal computation:

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    Thanks Farid for your reply .

    the problem in Fluxmotor , that i can't do a transient application , i can't know how long it takes for the motor to reach the steady temperature .

     

    Besides what i want to do is to design a cooling plate to cool electronic components , with a cooling water inlet and outlet and a circuit .

    i don't know if that is possible or not , but i have to use a flow of water  and the 3D application in flux .

    i hope you will help me 

  • Farid zidat_20516
    Farid zidat_20516
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2021

    You are welcome Jawhar!

     

    Yes you are right, with current version of FluxMotor, only thermal steady state is considered, but this feature is coming on next version of FluxMotor.

     

    For electronic devices cooling, i suggest you to use Altair ElectroFlo

    Altair ElectroFlo Datasheet (altairengineering.fr)

     

    If you manage to compute these convection coefficient thanks to a CFD tool like Altair AcuSolve( Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) Solver | Altair AcuSolve (altairengineering.fr) ) then depending on the complexitiy of the geometry use Flux or not.

    Bellow an other example from the supervisor with a simple model

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