Problem with Large displacements simulation

Piercarlo Marchegiani
Piercarlo Marchegiani Altair Community Member
edited December 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello!! 

I am triying to simulate a wing model with the large displacements card activated.  

The model worked well with the loadstep type "Generic". 

To make this simulation, first I switched to "Non-linear Quasi-static" analysis type.

Then I created a NLPARM load collector and added it to the loadstep in NLPARM(LGDISP) option. 

 

The problem is that when I start the simulation, the Nonl_EUI_st, Err_EPI_st and Meas_EWI_st values does not change so the simulation does not converge and I get the error #4965 --> Maximum number of time increment cutbacks reached. 

I have tried to use the NLADAPT card, changing the NCUTS option, and changing the  NINC and the MAXITER in the NLPARM load, and nothing works. 
 
I have also tried to put the NLPARM card without large displacements and it went well, so the non-linear quasi-static option is okay, the problem is only with large displacements option.

I even made a simplier model and the simulation went well!! So I dont know what is the problem with this file.  

Thank you for your help!!

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  • Adriano Koga_20259
    Adriano Koga_20259 New Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020

    can you share the .out file? It could give us some more insights about your model.

     

    Also for N problems, i would suggest to request PARAM,NLMON,DISP for a better visual understanding of what is going on.

    Also take a look at this blog post that gives you a brief explanation and tips on NL models.

    https://community.altair.com/community?id=community_blog&sys_id=538764ab1b3790d4a5f742eddc4bcba4

  • Piercarlo Marchegiani
    Piercarlo Marchegiani Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020

    Hi Adriano, thank you for your reply. 

    I was just taking a look at your post on Quasi-static simulations, and was interested in that option. 

    The problem is when I look the _nl.h3d to see what is going on I dont see anything, I think it may be because the model doesnt even make one succesfull iteration. 


  • Adriano Koga_20259
    Adriano Koga_20259 New Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020

    Hi Adriano, thank you for your reply. 

    I was just taking a look at your post on Quasi-static simulations, and was interested in that option. 

    The problem is when I look the _nl.h3d to see what is going on I dont see anything, I think it may be because the model doesnt even make one succesfull iteration. 


    do you have contacts? Do you have penetration in your contacts? Can you explain what do you have in your model?

    Can you check what do you have in node 13540? (Max residual Force is ultra high)

    What about node 5133? Residual moment is very high.

     

    ITERATION   0

            Nonlinear  iteration  summary for    Subcase        1
     
     
     Starting load increment 1 Current increment 1.0000E-001

      Subcase         1  Load step:  1.0000E-01
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                   Nonlinear Error Measures  Gap and Contact Element Status  Maximum
     Iter Avg. U    EUI      EPI      EWI    Open Closed Stick Slip Frozen  Plststrn
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            MAX FORCE                   0.0000000000D+00      AT NODE         1      DOF         1
            MAX RESIDUAL FORCE          -.2941849633D+09      AT NODE     13540      DOF         2
            MAX DISPLACEMENT INCREMENT  -.2732928983D+00      AT NODE      7815      DOF         3
            MAX DISPLACEMENT CORRECTION -.2732928983D+00      AT NODE      7815      DOF         3
            MAX RESIDUAL MOMENT         -.2702792081D+07      AT NODE      5133      DOF         4
            MAX ROTATION INCREMENT      -.6066682505D+01      AT NODE      7808      DOF         5
            MAX ROTATION CORRECTION     0.6470581143D+01      AT NODE      7808      DOF         5
            ELEMENT DISTORTION              15808
      1  1.51E-04 1.00E+00 5.25E+01 5.25E+01     0     0     0     0     0  0.00E+00

     

  • Piercarlo Marchegiani
    Piercarlo Marchegiani Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020

    There are no contacts in the model. 

    It is a simulation of half a wing under aerodynamic loads mainly. There are other linearly distributed forces tho. 

    There was a bad element in that node, I am repeating the proccess to see which nodes continue to fail!! 

    Thank you, hopefully that will be it, but if there is anymore trouble I will write you again!! 


     

     

  • Piercarlo Marchegiani
    Piercarlo Marchegiani Altair Community Member
    edited December 2020

    Hi, I did the proccess again and the residual forces went down, when I check the max nodes, there are no rare elements. 

    I think this was not the final problem. 

    I will attach you some images of the model and the new .out