ERROR id : 78 in radioss block explicit analysis

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited March 2021 in Community Q&A

ERROR id : 78

** ERROR : UNDEFINED NODE NUMBER

IN SURFACE DEFINITION DEFINITION :

NODE 0 DOES NOT EXIST

Any suggestions will be helpful

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2013

    Hello,

     

    a little bit more information about what you have defined would be also very helpful...

     

    It looks like there is a undefined node in a definition (maybe set or direct enumeration). Check and update this please.

     

    Regards,

    Mario

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2013

    The simulation objective is: the gasket is to be moved in positive X-direction with a force of 252 N and  hit the rigid target surface which is at a distance of 0.3mm above the gasket in the first load step and in the second load step gasket has to move negative X-direction and slide over the yoke body as a declipping contact.

     

          For this analysis at the starting of the radioss engine file it shows the following error.

     

    RROR id : 78 ** ERROR : UNDEFINED NODE NUMBER IN SURFACE DEFINITION DEFINITION : NODE 0 DOES NOT EXIST

     

    I have checked all nodes in the body(including rigid body nodes) and entity sets everything seems to be perfect but i wonder how this error comes.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2013

    Seems you have defined a master surface for a contact, but this surface contains no segments (a segment is used in contact to describe a face of an element and consists of three or for nodes, depending on wether the element face is three- or four-noded).

    You could check all the master surfaces in the model and see if they actually contain all the segments you need for your contact (in Hypermesh segments are named 'contact surfs', in Hypercrash they go as 'SURFs'

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2015

    Hi,

     

    I am facing a similar error. My model was working fine until I deleted the mesh for a component and remeshed it. I am now getting he following error:

    ERROR ID: 78

    ** ERROR : UNDEFINED NODE NUMBER

    DESCRIPTION: 

    IN NODE GROUP DEFINITION DEFINITION :

    NODE ID = 2096 DOES NOT EXIST

     

    I have deleted the empty contact surfaces and sets. I am unsure what I can do now to resolve the error.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2015

    Hi Sai,

     

    try this,

     

    1) check which set has the node ID 2096.

    2) Make sure that set ID has defined with /NODE card and not with other card or just with no card image.

     

    Also, check the contacts whether they have right master and slave segments.

     

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited July 2016

    Dear All,

     

    Did you get solution for this error mentioned above??

     

    Me too got the same.

     

    ERROR ID :           78
    ** ERROR : UNDEFINED NODE NUMBER
    DESCRIPTION :
       IN NODE GROUP DEFINITION DEFINITION :
       NODE ID=1175508 DOES NOT EXIST

     

    Thanks

    RAM

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2016

    Ram,

    Can you send me the model in drop box?

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited July 2016

    Dear George,

     

    I had dropped it.

     

    Thanks

    RAM

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2016

    Ram,

    Can you recreate the loads (gravity and inivel) . Also check the node group set 29. Re create the same for adding mass. Please try running after these.

     

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited July 2016

    Dear George,

     

    Thanks for your valuable support.

     

    I have cleared the errors with your guidelines , but now i am getting the error below

     

     ** ERROR TRAPPED : REPORT TO LISTING FILE
    ERROR ID :          760

     

     

    +=============================================================+
     |     ABNORMAL END                                            |
     |          Segmentation Violation                             |
     |     TRACE BACK :                                            |
     +=============================================================+
           TIME HISTORY GROUPS                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
     +=============================================================+

     

     

    Thanks

    RAM

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2016

    Hi Ram,

    Please share the .out file and input file.

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited July 2016

    Dear George,

     

    I had dropped it.

     

    Thanks

    RAM

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2016

    Hi Ram,

    This error is trapped because of the output block. Please remove the springs component from the Components subset in output block. 

    If you want the time history of spring elements, select elements from the subset and select the spring elements.

  • RAMGANESH
    RAMGANESH Altair Community Member
    edited July 2016

    Dear George,

     

    Thanks for your valuable support.

     

     

  • pohan
    pohan Altair Community Member
    edited March 2019

    Hi 

    In my opinion,  we can use contact 19 for self contact

  • KaizheAng
    KaizheAng Altair Community Member
    edited March 2021

    Hello,

    I also received the same errors in my modelling. The details of my modelling are as below:

    I was learning SPH by practising the "ditching using SPH" tutorial. It worked fine at first, but I tried to use a different droppping object (cylinder) instead of the triangular bar in the tutorial. I also made several changes on the parameters based on the new dropping obect. However, I received the errors.

    The model file is attached below, it would be great if you could take a look and get back to me.

    Regards,

    Kai