MESSAGE ID : 207 ** RUN KILLED : TOTAL MASS ERROR LIMIT REACHED

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hiii,

 

I am getting one error while solving radioss run

 

MESSAGE ID :          207

 ** RUN KILLED : TOTAL MASS ERROR LIMIT REACHED

 13689  0.3984E-01  0.3847E-10 INTER          1  99.9%  0.3105E+05  0.3029E+42  0.8363E+39  0.1711E+28  0.1959E+38
     ANIMATION FILE: Rolling_Simu_Trial_MS_HRPM_IV_1A005 WRITTEN
      
                          ** STATISTICS   **
      
***  PARTS WITH HIGHEST KINETIC ENERGY
      
   PART_ID   K-ENERGY   PROP_ID PROP_TYPE    MAT_ID  MAT_TYPE
         5 0.2385E+05         1        14         2         2
      
***  PARTS WITH HIGHEST INTERNAL ENERGY
      
   PART_ID   I-ENERGY   PROP_ID PROP_TYPE    MAT_ID  MAT_TYPE
         5 0.3105E+05         1        14         2         2

 

can any one help to get rid of these error.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Suraj Kolte 

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Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2017

    Hello Suraj,

     

    It will be good if you send the _0001.out to understand the issue.  

    From these lines, it looks issue is coming from Interface Id = 1.  What are the parameters you are using for this contact.

     

    Regards

    Prashanth A.R

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Dear Prashanth,

     

    Please find enclosed  _0001.out file

     

    Regards,

     

    Suraj 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2017

    Hello Suraj,

     

    From the out file I can make out that you have 99% error in the contact from the beginning itself.  The suggested parameters for TYPE7 contact are:

     

    Istf=4

    Igap=2

    Fscale_Gap=0.8

    INACTI=6

    Gap_min=0.1

    Fric = 0.1

    Iform=2

     

    Make sure you have these parameters

     

    Regards

    Prashanth A.R

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2017

    Dear Prashanth,

     

     Thanks for your suggestions for parameter of  TYPE7 contact.

     

    After incorporating these changes in contact, Error remains same. 

     

    Please find enclosed  .rad & .out file. 

     

    I am trying to simulate the roll forming simulation, the Blank should rotate with the rollers, but its is not rotating and forming. 

     

    Please guide on it.

     

    Regards,

     

    Suraj

     

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2017

    Dear Suraj,

     

    Download the model from below link.  

    Loads and BCs should be only on the Master node of RBODY.  

    Don't use StFac in the Contact for this case

    You are running the model with a high time step which I have reduced.

     

    https://ftin.india.altair.com:8443/message/AsTEsVuIsQRyb7aPyfI0Gu  

     

    Regards

    Prashanth A.R

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2017

    Dear Prashanth,

     

    Thanks for your support.

     

    I could now able to run file and see the results.

     

    I have one query about the results, whether the forming results are with spring back effect? and if not then how to consider that effect in simulation?

     

    Regards,

     

    Suraj  

     

     

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hello Suraj,

     

    Good to know this.

     

    To capture the spring back effect, you have to run a implicit run followed with the rolling analysis.  So you have to have a second engine file in which you should have these springback options.

     

     I have attached a sample file here, you can use the same file by changing the file name. As this is a second engine file,  file name name should end as _0002.rad.  You can restart your run to see the springback effect.  In this forum, I have explained the procedure to restart.  Please go through

     

    Regards

    Prashanth A.R

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Dear Prashanth,

     

    I had run the _0002.rad file which you have attached by changing the name, but the solution is not converging and taking to much time.

     

    Is there any other modification in _0002.rad I have to do, such as deleting interfaces or constraining the model in certain location?

     

    Thanks & Regards,

     

    Suraj

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2017

    Hello Suraj,

     

    Can you upload all the 3 .rad files to below link

     

    https://ftin.india.altair.com:8443/filedrop/~6kl8U4

     

    Regards

    Prashanth A.R

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2019

    I cannot simulate the results bcz of this error,

     

    MESSAGE ID :          205
     ** RUN KILLED : ENERGY ERROR LIMIT REACHED
    MESSAGE ID :          207
     ** RUN KILLED : TOTAL MASS ERROR LIMIT REACHED

     

    Help me out!

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2019

    Hello,

     

    I am getting same error  as MESSAGE ID : 207 ** RUN KILLED : TOTAL MASS ERROR LIMIT REACHED and i also tried all alternatives stated above but can't get through Simulation.

     

    I am attaching Output for your reference.

     

    Thanks

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  • Simon Križnik
    Simon Križnik Altair Community Member
    edited July 2019

    Hi,

     

    looks like an issue with the interface.  Check the interface for initial penetrations and if any are found depenetrate them all. In HyperMesh, go to Tools>Penetration and manually or automatically fix them. Please refer  HM-3320 tutorial.