How to make a load time history plot ?

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
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edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    Hi @Udin

     

    What type of analysis is it?

     

    Is it is a static analysis, it is no possible to get load vs history plot.

     

    Try transient analysis or any dynamic analysis type. 

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    yea i already got the load time history. I have 2 question, after i have followed the controlarm for stress-life (fatigue life) and applied the method to my leaf spring Steel , my lsteel leaf spring  fatigue life is very small. could you help me with this sir ?

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  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    @Udin how did you apply the load?? And i recommend you to go for a static analysis with maximum load and evaluate the stress under static condition for maximum magnitude of load. You can also evaluate the signed von mises stress and evaluate the mean and alternating stresses.

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    I hope you gave a magnitude and normalized tabled data while giving fatigue loading.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    The load i create myself and i took from the applied load of the centre leaf spring which is 9810N. I should take the von mises stress as my load? ohh i see we need to find the mean stress from signed von mises?

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    the data i made by microsoft excel

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  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    So while applying the load did u again gave a value of 9810?? If so give it unity. Or else normalize this loading curve and give load as 9810! 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    yes i gave the value as 9810 in load time history files (*csv). Sir how to normalize this loading curve?

     

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    If you give this as tabled data and again apply a reference load of 9810 your total load at time=2 will be 9810×9810 which will be huge.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    ohhhh, thts why the fatigue life is little. do you have recommendation for the load time history values?

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    You make like this

    Time=1 load =0

    Time=2 load = 1

    And alter every value of 9810 with 1

    And then apply reference load of 9810.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    thats make sense, thank you very much Sir i will try to do your steps

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    Sir what about the left handside table, the LDM and Scale need to change too ? <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>5ad4b6f75f379_PrtScrcapture.thumb.jpg.4689273f9c6fc58708e016edf353d5e3.jpg

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    Dont alter it as of now. You proceed and apply a refrence load of 9810N.

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    For more details on scaling and LDM you may refer reference guide under help.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    The result is still small as the previous ones sir

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  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    Can you do a static analysis for the same with load of 9810N and check the signed vonmises stress??

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    yes the static 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    the static result for signed von mises

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    The stresses are quite high kindly check for BC and load. Also check the unit consistency i recommend you to follow tonnes mm system.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    okay thats means i need to change from 1600kg into tonne=1.6 then convert it into Newton=15.696N. is it? if i use this value my vonMises is 7.99E+1 but the fatigue life is still small value which is 0.04. 

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    I mean in what unit system you gave young's modulus and density.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    thts means its starts from solidworks unit scale ? if in solidworks i set to mm , than i need to use the ton,mm,s,N,Mpa, Demsity = 7.83e-9 , Young's = 2.07e+5 , Gravity = 9.806e+3 ?

     

  • Nachiket Kadu_22143
    Nachiket Kadu_22143 Altair Community Member
    edited April 2018

    Yes this should be the unit system.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited November 2020

    good morning from Malaysia. I am not sure why after i do the unit consistency the VonMises is zero. 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Sir, my solidworks shows that the component unit is (mm,gram,second), but in hyperworks we need to used (tonne,mm,s). when im playing with the unit i didnt get any result. haha

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    Hi @Udin

     

    HyperMesh is unit neutral which means it is up to user maintain unit consistency. 

     

    If you still see issues with this, please share the file using the FTP link in my signature. 

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    the load i want to apply to the spring is  1600kg and fixed at both ends and i use steel material. For this case when i use the properties that has been given in hypwrworks for steel my load need to change to (tonne x 9.81e+3) so it become 15696N. The result i got zero VonMises Stress. 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    @Udin Please share.fem file

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2018

    i need to sent this assignment to my teacher by this thursday Sir.