Tire Modeling

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited November 2020 in Community Q&A

Hey guys,

 

I'm trying to simulate a tire bouncing off a rigid wall. I defined a monitored volume with air properties and an external surface, which is the tire.

The external pressure is 0.1 MPas and the external is 0.2 MPas. The solver runs fine but the funny thing is that the pressure of the monitored volume is

decreasing permanently (also below 0.2 MPas, like there would be a leak somewhere...). In the attached picture you see the peak where it hits the ground

but then, instead of normalizing the pressure to 0.2 MPas, it's getting less and less. The volume of the monitored volume gets bigger, therefore the product

of p*V to the power of gamma stays constant.

 

Why is this happening? How can I change this?

Is there a more realistic way of modeling/simulating a tire?

(Also the Hypermesh file is attached)

 

Appreciate all of your answers, thanks (; 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

    Please try with the attached files. Monitored volume parameters were modified and also the initial velocity of the model is modified. And also some changes were made in the engine file.

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2016

    Thank you for the quick response!

     

    The pressure is, I'm afraid, still decreasing permanently after impact...

    Maybe you have some other advise for me?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2016

     

    The pressure drop seems to be very low in this case and I feel this as an intended behavior. For a similar case like tyre drop, the plot is attached along.

    Meanwhile I'll check for some details related to this topic.

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2016

    Okay, yeah your pressure plot is perfect, but when I'm running your attached files I get the same pressure curve as I got before

    The pressure never gets constant as shown in your plot above...

    May you could attach the solver files one more time?

     

     

    Thanks for checking some other information about this topic !

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2016

    hey again,

    I don't really want to get on your nerves but I still don't get it working right...

    Always this descending pressure curves are annoying me, I really don't know what I'm making wrong...

     

    Maybe you could show me step by step how to set up a realistic tire simulation with an appropriate pressure curve at the end?

    I have tried everything and you are kind of my last chance to get it right...

    Thank you in advance!

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

    Please try with the attached files.

     

     

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