ERROR #312 - NEGATIVE COMPLIANCE

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hi everybody,

 

I am running a non-linear quasi static analysis in Optistruct. This analysis features a partial fan structure, with several components kept in place only by mutual contact with other elements. and various bolts wich keep together the parts via preload.

In particular:

-ALL COMPONENTS ARE MODELLED VIA 3D ELEMENTS (FIRST ORDER TETRA)

-ALL BOLTS HAVE FREEZE CONTACT. OTHER PARTS ARE MODELED WITH CONTACT CARDS USING MU=0.1. ALL Contact surfaces match node by node. 

-The gap between every contact surface is zero. There is NO GAP between one surface and another.

 

-MY INPUT ENTRIES ARE (AS LISTED IN MY .FEM FILE):
PARAM,AUTOSPC,YES     
PARAM,CONTFEL,YES     
PARAM,EXPERTNL,CNTSTB  
PARAM,PRGPST,ALL     

 

That being said, I obtain the following warnings at the end of the run:

 

 *** WARNING # 312
 In static load case 2 
 the compliance is negative or large -2.49893e+010.
 Optimization/buckling analysis cannot be performed.
 due to possible rigid body mode.
  

 *** INFORMATION # 942
 Apparently some contributions to negative compliance come from
 gap/contact elements. This can happen in case of initial interference (U0<0)
 or significant attractive force (KB>0). To ignore gap/contact contributions
 to compliance, set GAPCMPL to NO on the GAPPRM card.

 

My question is:

 

Since all displacements seem ok and stresses seem to be consistent with the applied loads and preload seem to work properly, should I ignore contact contributions or they might be invalidating all my results?

 

Thank you in advance for any reply.

 

Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2017

    Hi,

     

    Not sure where this extra compliance. Can you share some results and also .out file?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Unfortunately I can't share too much. But the .out file should do. If you need more information please just ask.

    Unable to find an attachment - read this blog

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2017

    Hi,

     

    Did you notice this warning message?

      
     *** WARNING # 5912
     On TIE and FREEZE contact interfaces, 11 slave nodes are
     not tied, these nodes are exported in SETs in the file 
     named test_nontied.fem.

     

    Can you please check if this is the reason?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2017

    Hi!

    Yeah, I noticed it and tried to fix it by increasing the searchdist length. However, nothing happened. Do you have any suggestion about a way to take care of this issue?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2018

    Hi @Matteo

     

    Only way is see is to remove tie and freeze contacts and have rigids. 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2018

    Dear Prakash,

     

    thank you for your reply. I will rearrange the model accordigly!