Force-displacement curve

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello Sir,

I am working on thin-walled structure. I had got the successful run for the model but the force- displacement curve is not in a way that i wanted it to be. There should be the peak force at the starting and then gradual decrease in force. Please help me .The curve that i want it should be look like the following curve

 

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  • gopal_rathore
    gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
    edited March 2018

    Hi,

    This simulation seems to be a quasistatic run which generally takes more time in actual physical condition . You can try increasing the ramp time of displacement(upto 0.2-0.3)

     

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi CHirag,

    It seems like the dynamic effects during the simulation causes for this type of curve. As Gopal suggested try ramping the load gradually on to the model.

  • Karthic_22061
    Karthic_22061 Altair Community Member
    edited March 2018

    Hi

    seems like there are POSSIBLE INCOMPATIBLE KINEMATIC CONDITIONS BETWEEN:
         BOUNDARY CONDITION
         RIGID WALL

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hello Sir, 

    I don't understand what you want to explain. could you please explain me in details that what should i do to get proper curve?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    hello Sir

    Please help me out.Please explain me.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi Chirag,

    For the imposed displacement load create a smooth and gradual load ramping so that the high dynamic effects can be reduced.

    Please go through https://altairuniversity.com/learning-library/7-guidelines-to-apply-quasi-static-load-in-explicit-simulation/ which gives guidelines to quasi static loading in explicit simulations. You can also try using a filter for the curve.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hello Sir,

    I had given the imposed displacement to the rigid wall. The times for the curve are 0, 0.045,0.05 and displacements are 0, 135,130. Should i have to use the imposed displacement instead of the imposed velocity? I don't understand that ramping load. Could you explain me please how to get solve this problem?

  • gopal_rathore
    gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
    edited March 2018

    Hi,

    You can do foll. change in curve  .Impose displacement is fine

     

       0.000000000000        0.000000000000    
        4.5000000000000E-02   -135.0000000000    
        5.0000000000000E-02   -130.0000000000  

     

    Increase 0.0045 to some 0.3 Higher this lesser will be dynamic effects . Basically we would like the load to reach in slower time to achieve a quasistatic condition
     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    hello Sir, 

    I have the same coordinates for the curve but in prvious run the force displacement curve is not good. Should i have to use the new coordinates as follows

    0               0

    0.28         -135

    0.3             -130

    the engine tstop time is 0.05 .Does it need to be change? 

  • gopal_rathore
    gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
    edited March 2018

    Hi,

    Yes Tstop time will be 0.3 now

     

    Run this and check the F-D curve

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    hello Sir, 

    I had made changes but this time the the crushing of the middle box did not completed. It has crushed only the starting part may be only 20% of the length.

  • gopal_rathore
    gopal_rathore Altair Community Member
    edited March 2018

    Hi,

    Is the time completed or error came?

    Share the curve used for imposed displacement

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hello Sir

    This is the curve that i got. The peak value at the first is nearly only 3500 but through the experimental results i had got it nearly 32000 also the wall does move only 25 mm though the curve defined had value 130. please help me ....

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited March 2018

    Hi sir,

    What's wrong in my model?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    hello Sir,

    could you suggest me what should i Do?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Hello Sir

    This is the curve that i got. The peak value at the first is nearly only 3500 but through the experimental results i had got it nearly 32000 also the wall does move only 25 mm though the curve defined had value 130. please help me ....

     

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