Spring element

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited November 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello Everyone

 

I have question regarding the usage of spring element. I have dogbone shaped geometry. I just want to create a spring element in the middle, so that I can use the displacement of that element in hyperview to analyse force displacement graph. The spring element stiffness should be 0, because I don't want it to have any effect on the overall result.

So I created a two nodes and in the middle a spring element should lie. I used the card image of CELAS1 and defined property PELAS. Under PELAS, I made k=0.

However, in hyperview I see no displacement happening to that point. Please tell me to resolve this issue.  I have attached the screenshots and also the file. It is non-linear quasi static analysis.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

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Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Okay. I actually figured it out. The nodes need to be connected to the mesh, other you can't see the displacement

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    But I have another query. In the attached h3d file, when I try to plot displacement vs time I only get the option to select the node.

    However, I want to figure out 'delta L' for the spring element(the whole line). Even when I try to output 'Element strain', 'CELAS strain', it just gives me 0. It doesn't make sense to me why would it do that.

    Basically, I want to plot 'delata L' of the spring element over time. Would really appreciate any help.

     

    Thanks

      

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Hi,

     

    What type of analysis is it?

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    non-linear quasi static

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Please reply. It is quite urgent

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Hi,

     

    Can you share the file you used for simulation, please?

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Hi,

     

    I can reproduce the same and I am going to report this. 

     

    Meanwhile, can you use BUSH elements instead of CELAS1?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    not too sure what to fill in here with PBUSH element though.

     

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    I just want a minimal stiffness for this spring element. I m not sure if PBUSH fulfills this function or not

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Provide a minimium stiffness by activating K line.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2018

    Hi Prakash

     

    It works with PBUSH.

    Thanks a lot