particle-particle/ particle wall collision efficiency

Fatemeh Hosseini_22198
Fatemeh Hosseini_22198 Altair Community Member
edited June 2022 in Community Q&A

Hello everybody.
I am studying the behavior of particles in a fluid in tube. 
Its too important for me to know collision efficiency between particle-particle and particle-wall. Also the rate of deposition is important for me.
Is there any tool on EDEM for measuring these parameters?

Thanks a lot 

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  • Stephen Cole
    Stephen Cole
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2022 Answer ✓

    Hi Fatemeh,


    You can use either the Contact information or turn on 'track Collisions'.  If using Contacts you only get the instantaneous particle-particle and particle-wall contact information at the save data point.  If using Track Collisions this will record the time-dependent collision, store this in memory and write it to file at the save data point.

     

    Track collisions gives you a lot more data however it uses more memory and is only supported on CPU not GPU.

     

    The track collisions option can be turned on in the EDEM Simulator tab.  Once you have this or are looking at Contacts you can export the data from the EDEM Analyst > File > Export Results data area.


    Regards

    Stephen

     

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  • Stephen Cole
    Stephen Cole
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2022 Answer ✓

    Hi Fatemeh,


    You can use either the Contact information or turn on 'track Collisions'.  If using Contacts you only get the instantaneous particle-particle and particle-wall contact information at the save data point.  If using Track Collisions this will record the time-dependent collision, store this in memory and write it to file at the save data point.

     

    Track collisions gives you a lot more data however it uses more memory and is only supported on CPU not GPU.

     

    The track collisions option can be turned on in the EDEM Simulator tab.  Once you have this or are looking at Contacts you can export the data from the EDEM Analyst > File > Export Results data area.


    Regards

    Stephen

     

  • Fatemeh Hosseini_22198
    Fatemeh Hosseini_22198 Altair Community Member
    edited May 2022

    Hi Fatemeh,


    You can use either the Contact information or turn on 'track Collisions'.  If using Contacts you only get the instantaneous particle-particle and particle-wall contact information at the save data point.  If using Track Collisions this will record the time-dependent collision, store this in memory and write it to file at the save data point.

     

    Track collisions gives you a lot more data however it uses more memory and is only supported on CPU not GPU.

     

    The track collisions option can be turned on in the EDEM Simulator tab.  Once you have this or are looking at Contacts you can export the data from the EDEM Analyst > File > Export Results data area.


    Regards

    Stephen

     

    Dear Stephen.

    I activated 'Track collision' in EDEM but there is not any information about collision that results agglomerates. 
    There is only some information about number of collisions, etc...
    Should I activate 'Bonding V2' to measure collision efficiency?
    Collision eff=Num of collision which cause agglomerates./total Num of collision!

    Best,
    Fatemeh

  • Stephen Cole
    Stephen Cole
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2022

    Dear Stephen.

    I activated 'Track collision' in EDEM but there is not any information about collision that results agglomerates. 
    There is only some information about number of collisions, etc...
    Should I activate 'Bonding V2' to measure collision efficiency?
    Collision eff=Num of collision which cause agglomerates./total Num of collision!

    Best,
    Fatemeh

    Hi Fatemeh,


    The agglomeration component is not something that EDEM outputs the data directly.  The information about the particles positions and contacts is available however there is nothing specifically in EDEM that gives the agglomeration information.

    There is a ongoing project to create an EDEMpy analysis script to show this information however this is not available currently.  You could look at EDEMpy analysis yourself for this, we have an e-learning course here:

     

    https://learn.altair.com/enrol/index.php?id=228

     

    Regards

    Stephen

  • Fatemeh Hosseini_22198
    Fatemeh Hosseini_22198 Altair Community Member
    edited June 2022

    Hi Fatemeh,


    The agglomeration component is not something that EDEM outputs the data directly.  The information about the particles positions and contacts is available however there is nothing specifically in EDEM that gives the agglomeration information.

    There is a ongoing project to create an EDEMpy analysis script to show this information however this is not available currently.  You could look at EDEMpy analysis yourself for this, we have an e-learning course here:

     

    https://learn.altair.com/enrol/index.php?id=228

     

    Regards

    Stephen

    Many Thanks Stephan.

    The agglomeration shape,size, position, and collision efficiency is really important for my project.

    In this way, should I define new variable myself?

    I mean is there any option in EDEM that I write a code and couple it with EDEM? (such as adding udf in Fluent)
    Is there any similar option in EDEM too?


    Regards,

    Fatemeh

  • Stephen Cole
    Stephen Cole
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2022

    Many Thanks Stephan.

    The agglomeration shape,size, position, and collision efficiency is really important for my project.

    In this way, should I define new variable myself?

    I mean is there any option in EDEM that I write a code and couple it with EDEM? (such as adding udf in Fluent)
    Is there any similar option in EDEM too?


    Regards,

    Fatemeh

    Hi Fatemeh,

     

    The EDEMpy customisation is probably the best approach here which allows you to define the variables.  The e-learning link above give a good overview, we also have more general webinar on EDEM API - https://www.altair.com/resource/edem-application-programing-interface-api-and-introduction-to-edempy

     

    Regards

    Stephen