Cant not find "Contact Manager" in Hypermesh 2020.

LIMING LI_21655
LIMING LI_21655 Altair Community Member
edited February 2021 in Community Q&A

Hi everyone,

 I can not find 'Contact Manager' in "Tools" menu. But the document says that "Contact Manager" is still in the "Tools" menu. (As bellow picture)

Anyone using Hypermesh 2020 version here  can  help me ?

Thanks advanced.

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  • Richard Heslouin_22010
    Richard Heslouin_22010
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2020 Answer ✓
    LIMING LI_21655 said:

    Hi,

    I am working on geomechanics finite element work. In geology, a fault is a planar fracture or discontinuity in a volume of rock across which there has been significant displacement as a result of rock-mass movements. In the model, the rocks will slide relatively along the fault plane. So I need to define a contact on both sides of the fault plane to form a contact pair. My model file is too big to upload, so I put it on Google Cloud Disk.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUK9krmuemxNHITX2cwEcZxxL6VPeFV/view?usp=sharing

     

    Thanks  for your warm help.

    Liming Li

    Hi,

    Thanks for your model. I did some tests and it seems that in some area the planar fracture is not well defined.

    I mean that the split is not done correctly because tetras elements are accross the two sides.

    See the picture below :

    image

    That's why you could have "hole" in your contact.

    Regards the methodology to create the contact, I will do in an another way that what you have sent in the pdf.

    Indeed, after to have split your tetras elements, you could directly select the component with the tetras elements in the autocontact detection, then select the option "Condiser contact within a component"

    image

    With this option HyperMesh will create the contact pairs and the contactsurfaces.

    As you can see in the video at this link :

    https://ftam1.altair.com/message/am0XAv9xx3KEfogp8F6FqR

    Let me know if it works for you.

    Richard

     

Answers

  • Richard Heslouin_22010
    Richard Heslouin_22010
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hello,

    To create contact, a new contact browser has been implemented. You can find it in the pulldow menu Vuew/Browsers/HyperMesh/Contact.

    You can do a right click in the contact browser to create contact between your components.

    If you have already defined contacts in your model, you can review it, update it into this contact Browser.

    Please find in attached the documentation regards this contact browser.

    Let me know if you have any question,

    Thanks,

    Richard

  • Julien Comas_21483
    Julien Comas_21483
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020

    Hello

    Contact Manager doen't exist anymore in HW2020.

    you need to use Contact Browser (in drop-down menu : View > Browsers > Hypermesh > Contact)

    image

    In this new browser, with a right click, you will be able to define your contacts : using auto contact or interface per interface.

    image

    Contacts algorithms have been improved for this browser.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks and Regards

    Julien

  • LIMING LI_21655
    LIMING LI_21655 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020
    Richard Heslouin_22010 said:

    Hello,

    To create contact, a new contact browser has been implemented. You can find it in the pulldow menu Vuew/Browsers/HyperMesh/Contact.

    You can do a right click in the contact browser to create contact between your components.

    If you have already defined contacts in your model, you can review it, update it into this contact Browser.

    Please find in attached the documentation regards this contact browser.

    Let me know if you have any question,

    Thanks,

    Richard

    Hi,

    Thanks for your help.

    But I am not sure if my operation is correct. The attached file is my operation in hypermesh2019. 

    The figures below indicate what I did in Hypermesh 2020. But the results show that some contacts

    are always missing, and some contacts are shown in different colors. Why is this?

    How can I get the same results as in Hypermesh2019 ?

    imageimage

  • Richard Heslouin_22010
    Richard Heslouin_22010
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2020
    LIMING LI_21655 said:

    Hi,

    Thanks for your help.

    But I am not sure if my operation is correct. The attached file is my operation in hypermesh2019. 

    The figures below indicate what I did in Hypermesh 2020. But the results show that some contacts

    are always missing, and some contacts are shown in different colors. Why is this?

    How can I get the same results as in Hypermesh2019 ?

    imageimage

    Hi,

    Could you explain me what you would like to do exactly ?

    Do you want to modelize a failure ?

    In the aim to give you the best answer could you provide me your model to do test ?

    Thanks,

    Richard

  • LIMING LI_21655
    LIMING LI_21655 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020
    Richard Heslouin_22010 said:

    Hi,

    Could you explain me what you would like to do exactly ?

    Do you want to modelize a failure ?

    In the aim to give you the best answer could you provide me your model to do test ?

    Thanks,

    Richard

    Hi,

    I am working on geomechanics finite element work. In geology, a fault is a planar fracture or discontinuity in a volume of rock across which there has been significant displacement as a result of rock-mass movements. In the model, the rocks will slide relatively along the fault plane. So I need to define a contact on both sides of the fault plane to form a contact pair. My model file is too big to upload, so I put it on Google Cloud Disk.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUK9krmuemxNHITX2cwEcZxxL6VPeFV/view?usp=sharing

     

    Thanks  for your warm help.

    Liming Li

  • Richard Heslouin_22010
    Richard Heslouin_22010
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2020 Answer ✓
    LIMING LI_21655 said:

    Hi,

    I am working on geomechanics finite element work. In geology, a fault is a planar fracture or discontinuity in a volume of rock across which there has been significant displacement as a result of rock-mass movements. In the model, the rocks will slide relatively along the fault plane. So I need to define a contact on both sides of the fault plane to form a contact pair. My model file is too big to upload, so I put it on Google Cloud Disk.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1caUK9krmuemxNHITX2cwEcZxxL6VPeFV/view?usp=sharing

     

    Thanks  for your warm help.

    Liming Li

    Hi,

    Thanks for your model. I did some tests and it seems that in some area the planar fracture is not well defined.

    I mean that the split is not done correctly because tetras elements are accross the two sides.

    See the picture below :

    image

    That's why you could have "hole" in your contact.

    Regards the methodology to create the contact, I will do in an another way that what you have sent in the pdf.

    Indeed, after to have split your tetras elements, you could directly select the component with the tetras elements in the autocontact detection, then select the option "Condiser contact within a component"

    image

    With this option HyperMesh will create the contact pairs and the contactsurfaces.

    As you can see in the video at this link :

    https://ftam1.altair.com/message/am0XAv9xx3KEfogp8F6FqR

    Let me know if it works for you.

    Richard

     

  • LIMING LI_21655
    LIMING LI_21655 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020
    Richard Heslouin_22010 said:

    Hi,

    Thanks for your model. I did some tests and it seems that in some area the planar fracture is not well defined.

    I mean that the split is not done correctly because tetras elements are accross the two sides.

    See the picture below :

    image

    That's why you could have "hole" in your contact.

    Regards the methodology to create the contact, I will do in an another way that what you have sent in the pdf.

    Indeed, after to have split your tetras elements, you could directly select the component with the tetras elements in the autocontact detection, then select the option "Condiser contact within a component"

    image

    With this option HyperMesh will create the contact pairs and the contactsurfaces.

    As you can see in the video at this link :

    https://ftam1.altair.com/message/am0XAv9xx3KEfogp8F6FqR

    Let me know if it works for you.

    Richard

     

    Hi,

    The fractures were really not well defined in some places because some nodes were not detached. But there were also "holes" though the nodes were detached in some other places. 

    I also have some questions about defining contact. I have summarized the problems I encountered, and hope to continue to get your help.

    See the PPT file in Google Drive. 

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/18qZNEDXAWjIU6Qyh2egcDVWOG-J0Tp_Q/view?usp=sharing

     

    Thanks for your help.

    Liming Li

  • LIMING LI_21655
    LIMING LI_21655 Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020
    Julien Comas_21483 said:

    Hello

    Contact Manager doen't exist anymore in HW2020.

    you need to use Contact Browser (in drop-down menu : View > Browsers > Hypermesh > Contact)

    image

    In this new browser, with a right click, you will be able to define your contacts : using auto contact or interface per interface.

    image

    Contacts algorithms have been improved for this browser.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks and Regards

    Julien

    Hi,

    Thanks for your help. I am trying to learn how to use it.

    Liming Li

  • Tapio Mäkelä
    Tapio Mäkelä Altair Community Member
    edited February 2021

    Hello,

    Found this new contact manager and way to create analytical rigid surfaces, but I can not find the former way to define and update analytical surfaces using local systems, arcs/lines, etc. Visualization is also missing.

    Is there a tool for analytical rigids any more?

     

    Best Regards,

    Tapio

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