Different behaviour between voltage circuit coupling VS current supply in windings

Ronan CORIN
Ronan CORIN New Altair Community Member
edited February 2021 in Community Q&A

Good evening,

I am modelling a kind of no-load transformer : 2 limbs, 2 windings, and 4 grain oriented sheets stacked in each limb, with a step-lap joint. Neumann boundary conditions at the end of each limb.

If the supply of the windings is directly done with a current (in winding's volume region properties), the path of the current in the winding seems correct.

 
But if the supply is done with a coupling circuit (voltage source followed by two coupling components, one for each winding), the path of the current in one of the windings seems wrong.
(The colors are not the same between these two pictures, but the physical properties are).
 
Do you have an idea of the reason of the difference of behaviour between these 2 cases, please ? Is it related to a problem with coupling circuit, or anything else ?
 
I cannot post the files in attachment, the total files size is 96Mo.
 
Thank for your help,
Ronan
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  • asoualmi
    asoualmi
    Altair Employee
    edited February 2021 Answer ✓

    Hi,

    I checked the results that you get, for both cases are correct. The difference is due to the phase angle (see attached PDF file).

    Hope this will help.

    Best regards.

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  • asoualmi
    asoualmi
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2021

    Hi,

    In Flux when you supply the device by a current source, we directly reach the steady state regime. but if you supply the device by a voltage source, in this case there is a transient region before reaching the steady state regime.

    In your case which application you use (Transient, steady state).

    To share the project, try to delete the results, the mesh and send it as zip format.

    Best regards.

  • Ronan CORIN
    Ronan CORIN New Altair Community Member
    edited January 2021

    Hi,

    Thank you for your reply and your explanation.

    I use a harmonic application.

    The files are attached in this message. There are two .FLU folders, one for each project (current source and voltage source).

    Best regards.

  • asoualmi
    asoualmi
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2021

    Hi,

    Thank you for your reply and your explanation.

    I use a harmonic application.

    The files are attached in this message. There are two .FLU folders, one for each project (current source and voltage source).

    Best regards.

    Thanks, I will check and keeep you informed.

     

    Best regards.

  • asoualmi
    asoualmi
    Altair Employee
    edited February 2021 Answer ✓

    Hi,

    I checked the results that you get, for both cases are correct. The difference is due to the phase angle (see attached PDF file).

    Hope this will help.

    Best regards.

  • Ronan CORIN
    Ronan CORIN New Altair Community Member
    edited January 2021

    Hi,

    Thank you for this explanation. Finally, that was a simple issue.

    Hope other non experienced Flux users like me will save time if they face this situation.

    Best regards.

  • asoualmi
    asoualmi
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2021

    You are welcome.