Rigid Body Mesh

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hi everybody

 

I would like to create a rigid mesh on the surface of a body, because i need a rigid

 

body, for which are not calculated stresses neither strains.

 

Could i mesh this surface using 'rigid body mesh' panel in automesh panel?

 

if it is the way, the mesh created will be used just to compute other things like interfaces 

 

reactions or others, and the mesh created will be completely rigid ... i'm i wrong?

 

thanks

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    Hi Damir,

     

    As far as i know,it is only an option for meshing.It is useful for meshing parts which will be used as rigid mesh,but if you define any different kind of property and material it won't behave like rigid.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
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    edited April 2015

    HI Damir,

     

    One way I could think about is having rigid elements on the mesh and constrainting in all DOFs.

     

    For example, imagine you have a plate with elements. Connect all the nodes of the mesh with rigid and constraint the rigid.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    Thanks NSKRTLUS and Prakash

     

    I have a body that i mesh 2D with shell elements; for that body i define i rigid with a master

    node in the centre and the mesh nodes as slave nodes. In the master i apply a initial velocity.

     

    But if i mesh it with 'rigid body mesh' in Automesh panel, the software will not calculate straind and stresses?

     

    Why should not behave like rigid mesh if i define i propery and material?

     

    Foe example in any ditching problems i wolud like to treat the ditching object like rigid, but i need a mesh

     

    to define interfaces between the object and the fluid.

     

    Supposing that the body will float, if i do not define a thikness and density for that rigid ditching body, how can

     

    software compute the Arichimedes  Principle?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    Hi Damir,

     

    RIGID mesh doesn't have any FE details other than elements which represent topology.

     

    But when you have RBODY, you should not see any stress- strain. If you are seeing any stress strain data, let us know.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    Hi Prakash

     

    no, i do not see any stress strain data...

     

    to be explicit i'm on the sphere ditching in SPH (water);

     

    but my doubt is this: if rigid mesh defines elements just for a topological reppresentation,

     

    how can i use these elements as master surfaces in type 7 interface, if don't define a young modulus for sphere material

     

    (supposing type7 interface vith ISTF=0 and STFAC= %of young modulus if the material of master surface)

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    Damir,

     

    Rigid mesh may not be the right idea for your case. Maybe you have to go for a normal mesh with coarser elements and define contacts for the same.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    ok...and this is an idea...

     

    what if i use rigid mesh in automesh panel and instead of ISTF=0 i use ISTF=1 so defining a precise STFAC in Pascal?

     

    in conclusion i need a sphere (shell elemnts) that behaves as rigid body, so no stresses and strains calculated and output, but 

     

    with the need to define a type7 contact with a interface stifness...

     

    whitch could be the easiest way to do this?

     

    thanks

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    You can try with ISTF= 1 since you want the surface to be rigid.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    ok, i understand...but with ISTF=1 and setting a high STFAC , the interface time step jumps too low...i'm wrong?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2015

    Damir,

     

    Penalty values will have its effect on time step in explicit analysis. 

     

    In your case, yes and no. I ran a simple plate with different STFACs and literally there is no change in time step or vey very minimal.

     

    But my problem here is simple. When you have more a complicate models and non-linearity this may not be true.

  • RamF
    RamF Altair Community Member
    edited November 2015

    How can I give property to rigid mesh?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Hi Ram,

    could you please explain what exactly you are doing?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2016

    hello sir, 

    i want to create rigid mesh on the surface and i want to assign mass to that rigid ,please tell me how i will do this.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2016

    Hi Monu,

     

    What is the solver you are using and what is the objective?

     

    You can create a node away from surface mesh and create rigid elements such that the node created will be independent and surface mesh nodes are dependent nodes.

     

    At the end, create mass element on the independent node.