Regarding tensile test simulation
Altair EmployeeDear all,
I am want to simulate a tensile test experiment. Although I have simulated with the help of a video on youtube, but in my simulation I am getting some unusual results which generally not happened in my previous attempts.
I had attached the .hm and .h3d file. I am using HyperWorks v12.0 for my analysis.
Initially it shows good results because in actual experiments my specimen have fractured in same area where it shows in simulation.
But after some time it show very unusual deformation.
Please check my model and suggest me if I have done some thing wrong in this model.
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Is this problem related to material properties?
In this model I had used MAT/LAW2 Johnson-cook material model.
Please reply to this.
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Hi Abhishek,
I am simulating your model on RADIOSS.
I will get back to you soon.
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Hii Prakash,
Thank you for your reply.
I just wanted to know which version of HyperWorks you are using for simulation. Because I am using HyperWorks v12.
Thanks and regards,
Abhishek Kumar
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Hi Abhishek,
Here is my result from HW 13.0. Change the shell element formulation to type 24 in PROP/SHELL and try again.
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Hii Prakash,
Thanks for your reply and your support.
- Can you explain the difference between the previous shell element formulation and the shell element formulation type 24?
- In this simulation it is not showing fracture after necking, it should fracture after necking. How I can get fracture in simulation?
Thanks and Regards,
Abhishek Kumar
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Abhishek,
Refer to th help regardinf different element formulations available. Here is some description about QEPH formulation.
You may have to introduce the failure model to simulate fracture. Refer to /FAIL in RADIOSS help.<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
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Thnaks Prakash.
Can you tell me about MTA LAW36, will it show fracture without failure model?
I am simulating another model with MAT LAW36.
Thanks and Regards,
Abhishek
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LAW 36 is piece wise non linear material model where you can give the stress strain values in the form of a curve.
Have you tried with /FAIL/XFEM_JOHNS
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No I have not tried FAIL/XFEM_JOHNS. I just checkd this, but it shows only FAIL>XFEM not XFEM_JOHNS.
Thanks and Regards,
Abhishek
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Ok I just checked RADIOSS Manual. In this model we need to give values of D1,D2 and D3. But at present I don't have theses values for the material which I am simulating.This failure model is based on stress triaxiality and failure strain.For D1,D2 and D3 we need to plot a graph between failure strain and stress triaxiality.
But problem is that I am simulating tensile test simulation to get the value of stress triaxiality for different of specimen under different failure mode. So that I can get the values of stress triaxiality at failure strain.. Then only I can get the value of D1,D2 and D3.
Is there any other method to get the value of stress triaxiality at failure strain?
Thanks and regards,
Abhishek
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Hiii Prakash,
How I can evaluate my tensile test simulation results with experimental results? It means I want to compare the graph (force vs. displacement or stress vs. strain) of simulation to actual experimental results.
Thanks and Regards,
Abhishek
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Abhishek,
here is a video which shows on how to plot for Stress Vs Strain in HyperGraph.
Similarly you can do the same for Force Vs Displacement.
Before that, you need to create output blocks for elements to write stress and strain results to T01 file.
Please refer to TH/SHELL for more information.
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Thanks Prakash,
I will try your suggestions.
In actual tensile test experiment specimen breaks after 4-5 mm extension. So I wanted to know that can I simulate the experiment until this point only?Also how I can ensure that the displacement results in simulation are in mm and force results are in Newton. Please tell me about units of the material data which I should follow. Presently I am using following data for MATLAW 2-
Density of material- 2.7 kg/m^3
Elastic constant- 69000 MPa
a = 58.73 MPa
b = 83.81 MPa
n = 0.1382
eps_max = 5.711
sigma_max 112.65 MPa
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Hiii,
I was trying to simulate another tensile test.But the result was totally unexpected. I don't know what was the error in my model.
This is the result.
Meshing-
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Please find the .hm and .h3d files.
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Abhishek,
Check for nodal connectivity.
Go to Edges panel (Shift+F3)>> Select all elements>> Preview Equiv>> if there are any free nodes FIx them using>> Equivalence.
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Altair Forum User said:
In actual tensile test experiment specimen breaks after 4-5 mm extension. So I wanted to know that can I simulate the experiment until this point only?
Abhishek,
You can use /SENSOR with type as DIST which works for nodal distance.
Please refer to help for more information.
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Altair Forum User said:
Please tell me about units of the material data which I should follow. Presently I am using following data for MATLAW 2-
Type of units that have to be used is specified in help and this may vary for different material models. For LAW 2 here is the unit system:
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Thank you Prakash.
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Dear Prakash,
Thanks for your continuous support.
I just checked the SENSOR/DIAS in RADIOSS manual. Can you suggest me how to edit the card image? I mean what values should I input to card image.
Should I use-
Tdelay- 0
node1- any node at fixed end.
node2- any node at velocity end.
Dmin- 0
Dmax- 0.006m (if I want to stop at 6mm displacement)
After that should I also edit engine file to stop the simulation at this prescribed displacement?
Thanks and regards,
Abhishek
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Abhishek
Altair Forum User said:After that should I also edit engine file to stop the simulation at this prescribed displacement?
Yes, you need to add the /STOP/LSENSOR to stop the analysis when the sensor activates. Please refer to STOP/LSENSOR.
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Altair Forum User said:
Abhishek,
here is a video which shows on how to plot for Stress Vs Strain in HyperGraph.
Similarly you can do the same for Force Vs Displacement.
Before that, you need to create output blocks for elements to write stress and strain results to T01 file.
Please refer to TH/SHELL for more information.
Hii prakash,
Please find the attached pdf. In this example a comparison has been done between experimental results and simulated results. Same comparison I want to perform in my study.
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Hii,
I have simulated the tensile test experiment but the values of force which I am getting in simulation is very less compared to real time experiment. In simulated result I am getting max. force around 120 N but in experiment it is around 2660 N. Please check attached results and model. I have also attached the results of real time experiment.
Thanks and regards,
Abhishek
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Dear Sir,
I tried to plot the stress strain curve for tensile test simulation carried out by me. But, I was unable to do it, the .hm is attached below.
Please plot the stress vs strain curve and also explain how to plot it.
Thanks and Regards
Pavan Kumar
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Hi Pavan Kumar,
You can output Stress and strain creating Output Blocks in RADIOSS.Go to Analaysis page>> Output Block>> elements. Card edit the created output block and change the variable to DEF for default outputs. Please go through /TH/SHEL in the Help Menu for more information about the output variables.
This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BnhOzRVkEQ&list=PLQ7KUGFuVz4u5y3SvIEIU07427-gATaG6&index=6 is a webinar showing creating output blocks in RADIOSS.
The other way is plot stress and plastic strain from HyperView.
Output Stress and strain through control cards and contour stress. Go to Plot curves and plot Stress Vs time. Similarly do the same for strain in the same existing window and do a cross plot in HyperGraph.
The attached document shows the steps to perform a cross plot in HyperGraph.
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Altair Forum User said:
Ok I just checked RADIOSS Manual. In this model we need to give values of D1,D2 and D3. But at present I don't have theses values for the material which I am simulating.This failure model is based on stress triaxiality and failure strain.For D1,D2 and D3 we need to plot a graph between failure strain and stress triaxiality.
But problem is that I am simulating tensile test simulation to get the value of stress triaxiality for different of specimen under different failure mode. So that I can get the values of stress triaxiality at failure strain.. Then only I can get the value of D1,D2 and D3.
Is there any other method to get the value of stress triaxiality at failure strain?
Thanks and regards,
Abhishek
How to find triaxility?
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Hi Pavan Kumar,
Stress triaxiality is an important and useful character to describe the state of stress, which effects the material damage and fracture.
In /FAIL/JOHNSON card D1, D2, and D3 are constants in the Johnson failure equation that relates plastic failure strain to stress triaxiality.
Please go through the RADIOSS User Guide in Help Menu where this concept is described in /FAIL/JOHNSON card (page 124 onwards).
The following are some common stress states and their triaxiality values:
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Hello Sir,
I had carried out the simulation with specimen having different shape then doge bone specimen. I am unable to get the exact stress strain curve and force vs displacement plot also . I had created the output block with the elements section. I am attaching .hm, .h3d and T01 file with this, please explain me where I am doing mistake.
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Hello Pavan,
From the T01 file select the element for plotting the stress and strain curve. Else, from HyperView also you can plot this using Build Plots menu.
Once these plots are done using cross plot option you can create stress-strain curve.
I'm attaching two documents where cross plotting is shown. Please follow the steps shown in these documents to create a cross plot.
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Thank you for the reply Sir,
I have already used the cross plot and getting the stress vs strain in one plot. I have also used the T01 file in Hypergraph for plotting this for an specified element. However the trend of the stress strain curve is not appropriate, Therefore I am requesting you please see my .hm file, h3d and T01 file and explain me is there any mistake in modelling. I am attaching the stress strain curve plotted using cross plot but the trend of the curve is not appropriate. pleas e see the attachment.
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