1D mesh stresses

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello,

 

I would like to mesh lines with 1D elements, with a tubular cross section. I used a CROD element, so I could define the cross section, but after calculation the displacement seem too small, and the stresses are not displayed.

Can you please suggest me an element type that is proper for tube meshing?

 

Thanks:

Sanyo

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited February 2015

    HI Sanyo,

     

    Since you said you are having a tubular section, use CBAR or CBEAM, instead.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited February 2015

    To output the stress for the beam elements we need to need to specify the Stress Recovery Coefficients C1, C2, D1, D2, E1, E2, F1, F2 (4 points on the X-section) on the beam property card. 

    C1, C2 (or D1, D2 ...) are the y and z coordinates in the BEAM element co-ordinate system of a point at which stresses are calculated. See the attached powerpoint for the visualization of this. For e.g if you need to calculate the stresses on the surface for the tubular x-section you could use the following values based on the outer diameter of the tube you are using: 

    C1, C2 = 0.025, 0.000 
    D1, D2 = 0.000, 0.025 
    E1, E2 = -0.025, 0.000 
    F1, F2 = 0.000, -0.025 

    This is just an example, you can use any other coordinates. 

    Now moving to HyperView post-processing the stresses you can contour are the following: 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAC - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point C. positive values means tension, negative values means compression. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAD - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point D. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAE - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point E. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAF - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point F. 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBC - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point C. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBD - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point D. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBE - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point E. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBF - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point F. 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAMIN - Minimum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end A. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAMAX - Maximum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end A. 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBMIN - Minimum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end B. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBMAX - Maximum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end B. 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited February 2015

    Thank you very much Prakash!

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited August 2017

    Mr Prakash Pagadala,
    I do not find attached powerpoint file, can you upload again?
    thank you very much

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2017

    To output the stress for the beam elements we need to need to specify the Stress Recovery Coefficients C1, C2, D1, D2, E1, E2, F1, F2 (4 points on the X-section) on the beam property card. 

    C1, C2 (or D1, D2 ...) are the y and z coordinates in the BEAM element co-ordinate system of a point at which stresses are calculated. See the attached powerpoint for the visualization of this. For e.g if you need to calculate the stresses on the surface for the tubular x-section you could use the following values based on the outer diameter of the tube you are using: 

    C1, C2 = 0.025, 0.000 
    D1, D2 = 0.000, 0.025 
    E1, E2 = -0.025, 0.000 
    F1, F2 = 0.000, -0.025 

    This is just an example, you can use any other coordinates. 

    Now moving to HyperView post-processing the stresses you can contour are the following: 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAC - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point C. positive values means tension, negative values means compression. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAD - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point D. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAE - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point E. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAF - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end A for point F. 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBC - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point C. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBD - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point D. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBE - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point E. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBF - The longitudnal (extensional) stress at end B for point F. 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAMIN - Minimum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end A. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SAMAX - Maximum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end A. 

    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBMIN - Minimum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end B. 
    CBAR/CBEAM Long. Stress SBMAX - Maximum value of longitudnal stress over points C, D, E and F at end B. 

    What does mean the points A and B?

     

    Thanks

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2017

    Hi,

    A and B are two end points of bar / beam elements and each end has four stress recovery points (C,D,E and F).

  • Vinicius
    Vinicius New Altair Community Member
    edited October 2020

    Hello everyone. I believe the answer to the problem is found in the following link 

    https://community.altair.com/community?id=community_question&sys_id=5046c8761b2bd0908017dc61ec4bcb3a

     

     

    best regards

  • Adriano A. Koga
    Adriano A. Koga
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2020

    By the way, if you use PBEAML or PBARL properties, the stress recovery points are automatically assigned, and it is much easier.

    The only issue is for non-standard sections, then regular PBAR/PBEAM are needed.