Model enforced displacement + force

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hi all,

 

 

 

 

I am trying to model a combined enforced displacement (with a SPCD) + an applied force. However I could only model it separetly and all the examples I find in the web are about modelling only a enforced displacement or only a force but not both combined. Could anybody help me with this?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks a lot,

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

Mario

 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2015

    Hi Mario,

     

    Usually LOAD or LOADADD is the solution to have load combination. But this does not support Adding SPCD.

     

    could you please let me know what the use case is and what is the analysis about?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited December 2015

    I am working on DaCM topology optimization problem. I gave fixed supports to left top and bottom corners of thin square plate, enforced displacement in +x direction on midpoint of right edge. For this, I used SPC and SPCD load type - assigned loadcase as SPC. Then applied horizontal point load on midpoint of left edge and assigned loadcase as Load.

     

    vol frac - 0.35, obj is to min compliance.

     

    Shows Error 318 -  static load case has non zero applied loads & prescribed displacements. Optimization with compliance can not be performed.

     

    Please help. Thanks !

  • tinh
    tinh Altair Community Member
    edited November 2020

    Hi,

    if there is no solution for load combination

    why don't you apply enforced-disp directly to SPC (not use SPCD)?

    i think it is a workaround for your case. But please verify results

    example:

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2016

    It shows error as SPCD constraint must be constrained with SPC. FEA results are ok but optimization results shows 100% material removal. See attached snaps. I am using DOF 2 to apply enforced displacement in +ve Y direction. Is it correct ?

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  • tinh
    tinh Altair Community Member
    edited January 2016

    Hi

    if you already assigned enforced-disp directly to SPC, then delete SPCD

    so you have LOAD (force) on one edge, and SPC(disp) on opposite

    please refere to my zzz.fem file

    If you run optimization, please organize (move) elems around all SPC and LOAD into 'NonDesign' property, so optimization will not remove material at those area (then your loading condition will not be lost after some iteration)

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2016

    Hey,

    Thanks for quick reply.

    organized elements around all SPC and LOAD into 'NonDesign' components and assigned new property still same error msg.

     

    How software identifies design and non design domain? only moving elements to the component of different name will not work. Can you please mention steps to do it ?

     

    Also, I am not able to open your attachment in hyper works. Shall I open using Ansys?

     

     

     

     

  • Rahul Rajan_21763
    Rahul Rajan_21763 New Altair Community Member
    edited January 2016

    Hi all,

     

     

     

     

    I am trying to model a combined enforced displacement (with a SPCD) + an applied force. However I could only model it separetly and all the examples I find in the web are about modelling only a enforced displacement or only a force but not both combined. Could anybody help me with this?

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks a lot,

     

     

     

     

     

    Regards,

     

     

     

     

     

    Mario

     

    You cannot have both enforced motion along with external forces acting simultaneously. This physically makes no sense.

    What you could do as a workaround is create two subcase.

    In the first subcase apply enforced motion and then call this subcase into second one using STATSUB(PRELOAD) command in which you can define external forces.

     

    Regards

    Rahul R

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited January 2016

    All,

     

    One another workaround is to calculate the reaction forces using just enforced displacement and use the same force to combine the force calculated from enforced displacement and actual force.