ODBC Connectivity

Rebekah
Rebekah Altair Community Member
edited April 2019 in Community Q&A
​We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
Thanks,
Rebekah

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Rebekah
Operational Risk Analyst
Exchange Bank (CA)
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  • Dylan_20833
    Dylan_20833
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2019
    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Rebekah
    Rebekah Altair Community Member
    edited April 2019

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Dylan_20833
    Dylan_20833
    Altair Employee
    edited April 2019
    Rebekah said:

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Rebekah
    Rebekah Altair Community Member
    edited May 2019

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Mahmoud
    Mahmoud
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2019
    Rebekah said:

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account. 
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection). 
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match. 
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Rebekah
    Rebekah Altair Community Member
    edited May 2019
    Mahmoud said:

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account. 
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection). 
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match. 
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Thank you, Mo - I wasn't clear. The ODBC connection does have the same name, but the user name and password differ on the server. I will ask our IT staff about using the Windows Authentication method. If they will allow it, I will definitely give that a try. And I hesitate to use my user name and password for the ODBC connection to core, as my PW expires every 90 days. The password that we utilize on our old DataPump server is set to never expire, so we would like to replicate that in the new environment on the Automator server. Since people sometimes move on, it is probably best to avoid using actual user names and passwords to run processes or establish connections.
    Thanks much,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Rebekah
    Rebekah Altair Community Member
    edited May 2019
    Mahmoud said:

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account. 
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection). 
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match. 
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Rebekah
    Rebekah Altair Community Member
    edited May 2019
    Rebekah said:

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    One more question - do I need to add my user name and password in the connection definitions in Automator?
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 06:09 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Mahmoud
    Mahmoud
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2019
    Rebekah said:

    One more question - do I need to add my user name and password in the connection definitions in Automator?
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 06:09 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Hi Rebekah,
    You can add a connection definition with either your username and password, or upload the Monarch project to the Automator.
    Edit the project it the project editor.  In the project editor, in the input tab modify the database configuration and provide a your username and password, or select the previously configured a connection definition.

    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 07:16 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    One more question - do I need to add my user name and password in the connection definitions in Automator?
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 06:09 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "
  • Mahmoud
    Mahmoud
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2019
    Mahmoud said:

    Hi Rebekah,
    You can add a connection definition with either your username and password, or upload the Monarch project to the Automator.
    Edit the project it the project editor.  In the project editor, in the input tab modify the database configuration and provide a your username and password, or select the previously configured a connection definition.

    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 07:16 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    One more question - do I need to add my user name and password in the connection definitions in Automator?
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 06:09 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "

    Hi Rebekah,
    Yes you do need to add your username and password when you create an ODBC connection definition and the trusted connection is false.
    In the screenshot below the DNS name (DemoDB-ODBC-SQLAuth) must already exist on the Automator server.
    imageYou can create an Automator project (or upload a Monarch project in server library, and edit it) and configure the input tab to use database and use the connection definition.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-31-2019 08:36 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    You can add a connection definition with either your username and password, or upload the Monarch project to the Automator.
    Edit the project it the project editor.  In the project editor, in the input tab modify the database configuration and provide a your username and password, or select the previously configured a connection definition.

    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840
    ------------------------------

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 07:16 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    One more question - do I need to add my user name and password in the connection definitions in Automator?
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-29-2019 06:09 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Mo,
    Quick question related to this - is there a way to reverse this and create a model with the server name and PW embedded in the project rather than my user name and PW? The server PW is configured to be persistent, so expiration is not an issue.
    Thanks!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-24-2019 08:56 AM
    From: Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,
    The ODBC that you created on your PC should also exist on the Automator server with the same name, but does not have to have the same account.
    The preferred way to connect to a database is using windows authentication (or trusted connection).
    For example you will ask the DBA to add your domain account to the database server as well as the Automator service account (all Automator processes run under the Automator service account). You create an ODBC connection on your PC using the trusted connection (per screenshot below)
    imageAsk the Automator administrator to create an ODBC connection on the Automator server with the same ODBC name that you created on your PC with trusted connection.  When you run your process in the Automator, the process connects to the database server with trusted connection using the same ODBC connection.
    If you connect to the database server using an ODBC connection with a username and password, then ensure that the "Save login credentials in projects" is set to always in the Monarch classic options (per screenshot below):
    The ODBC name on your PC should match the ODBC name on the Automator server, however, the account does not need to match.
    For example, if you create an ODBC on your pc with username Rebekah and some password, and the ODBC on the server has a different username and password, as long as the credential is saved in the project file, then the Automator process can use the ODBC on the server with your credential.
    Regards
    Mo

    ------------------------------
    Mahmoud Abdolrahim
    Senior Implementation & Integration Engineer
    Datawatch Corporation
    MA
    (978) 935-3840

    Original Message:
    Sent: 05-23-2019 07:13 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Adding to my original question - what is the best way to create a model that has password protected ODBC connectivity when it is being created to run on Automator? Because models are not portable from user to user once those credentials are established pending a fix in the summer release, do I need to create the model on the server in order to establish the ODBC?
    I have always created models on my workstation and then promoted them to the DataPump server, where I could open and update the model through the DataPump interface, but Automator doesn't have that same capability. It would be helpful to know if anyone is running a model with password protected ODBC connectivity via Automator and how they went about establishing that.
    Thank you!
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 04:06 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    If there is a fix so this operates in Classic v14 the way it did in v10.5, I'm sure we'll get that response on your ticket. However, I can tell you that I know Data Prep Studio will save the ODBC connection in a workspace file. Since you are licensed for Monarch Complete (Data Prep Studio + Classic), we can show you how to do this if you like. I will send you an e-mail.

    Best,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:14 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Dylan,
    We are using Classic. A support ticket has been opened (ID 53034).
    Thank you,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-26-2019 02:03 PM
    From: Dylan Tancill
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    Hi Rebekah,

    Are you doing this in Monarch Classic or Data Prep Studio within v14?

    Thanks,
    Dylan

    ------------------------------
    Dylan Tancill
    Outside Sales Account Manager
    Datawatch Corporation
    Bedford MA
    (978) 441-2200

    Original Message:
    Sent: 04-25-2019 07:01 PM
    From: Rebekah Tyrrell
    Subject: ODBC Connectivity

    We sometimes share models among our users, and we are encountering an issue with models that utilize an ODBC connection to our core system. In Monarch 10.5 we would receive a prompt for a user name/password, but now it seems that we need to recreate the ODBC connection for each user who utilizes that model (now we are saving the models with the user's name in the model name). If someone opened a model with an ODBC connection set up by another user, they would immediately receive an error, and the person who initially created the model would then be locked out of the core system. Has anyone run into this? Any tips/tricks that you are using to address this?
    Is there a place in Monarch 14 where we can either specify "prompt for user name/password" and/or set it to allow for additional PW attempts prior to locking a user out?
    Thanks,
    Rebekah

    ------------------------------
    Rebekah
    Operational Risk Analyst
    Exchange Bank (CA)
    ------------------------------
    "