Trouble with Tie contact

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

I have two 2d meshes approximately .132in apart but where the laminates will contact each other. I have been trying the tie surface contact but when I run the simulation there is no load transfer from one part to the other.

 

Is there any other way to perform this or something I should be looking out for in particular? 

 

Thank you for any advice regarding this subject. 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2016

    Hi,

    Can you share the model please?

    Can you also check if there is any load transfer happening when you have rigids instead of tie contact.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2016

    Alright so basically the model is a multipart fea with two wheel shells made of laminates and a solid 3d aluminum wheel center. The only things attaching the shells together are the laminates when cured and then the wheel shells will be connected to the aluminum center with bolts. What is the best way of achieving these constraints? So far I've just used tie although I know to achieve an accurate model I should be using bolts and possibly other contacts.

     

    Also I have tried rigids in the past which did nothing when the two surfaces were not on top of each other.

     

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kv588q83h4ox21u/AACtO6UoONnFrWiV_10jZSuka?dl=0

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2016

    Hi,

     

    I do see load transfer happening, I can see stress in all the components from the H3D file you shared.

     

    You are correct. To have accurate results you need to assemble with bolts, welds, etc...

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2016

    Also Is there a way to apply loads or contact surfaces onto a laminate instead of just the midplane mesh? 

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited November 2016

    Hi,

     

    You can actually adjust the position of the laminate using Z0 in PCOMPP.

     

    I don't see a way to apply the load on top of the laminate.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

     I am getting this error
     NOTE # 9199
     MSGLMT=STRICT is active, all messages will be printed.
     You can suppress some less important warning messages by use of
      MSGLMT=BRIEF or UNREF (in config file or in the input data).
      
      
     *** ERROR # 1762 ***
     Incorrect SET type for MSID on CONTACT 11.
      
     *** ERROR # 1762 ***
     Incorrect SET type for MSID on CONTACT 13.
      
     *** ERROR # 1762 ***
     Incorrect SET type for MSID on CONTACT 15.
     *** Errors with missing, incorrect or duplicate IDs found 3 times.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    Hi Ank,

     

    Looks like there is something missing in contact definition. 

    Is it possible to share model file?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited October 2017

    no sir due to some reason i cannot share the model.