Can we drag normal direction elements?

Altair Forum User
Altair Forum User
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

I know we can use drag to drag element from x,y or z direction.

 

But can we drag normal direction elements?

 

I have a circle and I want it to plus the diameter, so I need to drag it's normal direction elements.

 

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How should I do this.

 

Because I change here, but it can't show what I want.

 

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  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    Hi LKZ,

     

    It is not possible to drag elements in the normal direction. Instead, you can use Scale option in the Tool panel.

     

     

    Thank you

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited July 2018

    @LKZ To try this method: project (by duplicating) boundary nodes to new circle with option 'line normal'. And then create new mesh with method 'ruled' by defining two list of nodes.

    Share your HM model?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai I can't completely know

     

    Do you have any file about that.

     

    Really thanks.

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited July 2018

    Share model?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai Thanks to your reply.

     

    Here is the model and I want to grow the normal direction of elements.

     

    File

     

    image.png.12930d719d1e1258555ca97bbd4d0ad8.png

     

     

    Unable to find an attachment - read this blog

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited July 2018

    Find face at outer radius then make scale. I take a factor of 1.2 as example.

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    We got two surfaces. Make solid map by using '3D' => 'linear solid':

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    And finally:

    screenshot_90.png.8122cce2c89c850019f4af2f080fce13.png

     

    Here's HM model:   

     

    HTH,

     

     

    Unable to find an attachment - read this blog

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai Really thanks for your help.

     

    Because I used the HyperMesh 2017.2, I think at the last step my interface is different from you.

     

    My last step is like this. I think it will be helpful for other person. 

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>image.thumb.png.0d7743d1eee16a63f79d6c7c3e82be57.png

     

    And at the last I can finish my model. Really thanks!

     

    image.png.a9a9fba613e4339c152eaf7e93a833d9.png

     

    I think it's have some problem about although it can drag the normal element.

     

    We just can drag one layer element at once, I think it will spend every user many times.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    Hi

     

    Change the element size option to Density. And give density 2.

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    Thank you

     

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    @Premanand Suryavanshi Sorry I reply so late.

     

    Really thanks for your help. I will try it.

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai Hi

     

    When I use the scale, I find a problem about if I want to scale for the distance.

     

    Can we do that? Because when I set the scale factor, I can't catch the value correctly.

     

    And it can't grow the size what I want.

     

    Do you have this solution? Really thanks.

  • Q.Nguyen-Dai
    Q.Nguyen-Dai Altair Community Member
    edited July 2018

     

                                         future external radius

    The scale factor = --------------------------------------------

                                         current external radius

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2018

    @Q.Nguyen-Dai Thanks for your help.

     

    I have a last question.

     

    If I have many layers about the model, and I want to separate them.

     

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    But when I use Tool→Organize→element by faces it can't let me pick one layer of elements.

     

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    How can I quickly pick every layer of them and where is my wrong?

     

    Really thanks.

  • tinh
    tinh Altair Community Member
    edited July 2018

    Hi, solid elems cannot be selected 'by face'

    with first layer, try 'find attach' (shift F5): select nodes 'by face', then find elems attached to those nodes.

    once you moved a layer to new comp, you can select it 'by collector' and select next layer 'by adjacent', then subtract 1st layer from selection also 'by collector'