Matching mesh

Rahul_P1
Rahul_P1
Altair Employee
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello,

I actually encounter problem for meshing two tubes forming a T shape with two shell tubes (which will have different thickness and so belong to two different components), the pictures below describes the general idea:

However the mesh (created using 2D Automesh) for the blue tube and the red tube don't match:

My question is how can I make them match without using equivalence because it creates bad quality mesh and result in failing the simulation?

Thank you very much for your help
4064u-t-shape.jpg
36n8g-meshes.jpg

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Answers

  • Rahul_P1
    Rahul_P1
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2015

    Hi Albain,

    If the mesh size (element size) can be same in both the tubes, you should merge the tubes together (for instance, you could just translate the tubes until they intersect, then you can trim the tubes so that they are now connected,) and then mesh both the tubes at once using automesh, keep connectivity option.

    However, you could perhaps try the mesh imprint option, see - HyperWorks Desktop Applications > HyperMesh > User's Guide > HyperMesh Panels > HyperMesh Panels Listed Alphabetically: > Mesh Edit Panel

  • Rahul_P1
    Rahul_P1
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2015

    Hi Rahul,

    Unfortunatelly, I can't mesh both tubes at the time as they have different thickness (and so different properties applied to two different components, one for each tube). They also are connected, thanks to the CAD. So there is nothing to trim and the mesh imprint option fails...

    Thank you for your time and your answer

  • Rahul_P1
    Rahul_P1
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2015

    Albain,

    The fact that they have different thicknesses should not affect our shell mesh,

    We can still mesh them together, then reorganize to different components and then assign different properties/thicknesses (you can assign different thicknesses to different elements even if you do not organize them into different components.

    Please send me the model using the dropbox below and then I can guide you better.

  • Rahul_P1
    Rahul_P1
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2015

    Albain,

    Step 1 - go to defeature > duplicates > find > delete all duplicate surfaces

    Step 2 - go to quick edit > toggle the edges where they meet

    Step 3 - go to surface edit > trim with lines > trim the surfaces > use the lines where the tubes intersect to trim
    so that that the perpendicular tube and the vertical tube have trimmed surfaces where they meet.

    Step 4 - mesh using automesh > keep connectivity

    Step 5 - re organize the elements to desired collectors by selecting elements > by geoms > surfaces > select the relevant surfaces

    Then you get the desired result !
    7c277-dsf.png
    ctpf9-qw.png

  • Rahul_P1
    Rahul_P1
    Altair Employee
    edited May 2015

    Thank you very much for your help!

    I also find another way to do it using connectors:

    Step1
    Connectors >Create> Seams
    select the line between the two tubes
    Connect what> comps select the whole model and switch elem to geom
    Type= weld
    Create>Return

    Step 2
    Mesh the whole model (/!\ you have to mesh the surface from the inside of the tube) mesh.jpg

    Step 3
    Reorganize the element to desired collectors ...
    7380k-mesh.jpg

  • mirko088
    mirko088 Altair Community Member
    edited May 2020

    Hi, i have the same problem with different component . Can you help me?

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited July 2020

    Which photo do you like best? I have many more photos (photos are clickable)*

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