(Solved) Turbulence model and Y+ value

Junta_20361
Junta_20361 New Altair Community Member
edited October 2020 in Community Q&A

Hello expert,

I am new to CFD and i have some questions about turbulence model and Y+ value.

  1.  There is a lot of turbulence model provided in AcuSolve: Spallart Allmaras, K-epsilon, K-omega,...
    - So which model should be used for some specified case?
     
  2.  The value Y+ is used to determined the 'first cell height' while meshing.
    - what is the value of Y+ should i used to calculate 'first cell height'?
    - Does it depend on type of flow (internal/ external) or chosen turbulence model?
     

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Thank in advance!
Best regard!

 

 

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Answers

  • Altair Forum User
    Altair Forum User
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2019

    Hi,

    The y+ value depends upon the accuracy of solution required in the near wall region for your simulation and also the turbulence model chosen. Spalart-Allmaras, the standard acusolve wall function, can handle y+ values below 300.

     

  • Junta_20361
    Junta_20361 New Altair Community Member
    edited June 2019

    Hi,

    The y+ value depends upon the accuracy of solution required in the near wall region for your simulation and also the turbulence model chosen. Spalart-Allmaras, the standard acusolve wall function, can handle y+ values below 300.

     


    hi Nimisha,

    Thanks for your detail answer.

  • acupro
    acupro
    Altair Employee
    edited June 2019

    You'll achieve better accuracy with lower Y+ values - at the cost of more mesh and longer simulation runtime.  For example, you'll typically get a more accurate solution with Y+ = 20 than you would with Y+ = 100.  However, maybe the level of accuracy at Y+ = 100 is enough for your purposes.  That's where it becomes 'engineering' instead of just running a simulation.  You can run a mesh sensitivity study to see how the solution of interest changes as you modify the meshing parameters.

  • Junta_20361
    Junta_20361 New Altair Community Member
    edited June 2019

    thanks Acupro,

    very detail answer.
    best regards!